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5881 to EL34 Conversion in the JTM-45

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:15 pm
by daveghr
Is there a mod you can do to put EL34s in the JTM-45? Is it as simple as just changing the tubes or do you need to mod the board?

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:11 pm
by Flames1950
You'll need to make sure you have 1K 5watt screen resistors mounted on the power tube sockets in place of the 470ohm 5watt resistors common to 6L6/KT66/5881 tubes.
Then it's just a matter of setting the bias range right -- which may involve changing one resistor on the board......

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:41 am
by daveghr
any ideas on which one and to what rating?

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:51 am
by Billy Batz
You wont know that until you try and bias them. Most likely you wont have to.

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:53 am
by daveghr
is the EL34 pin configuration the same as the 5881s?

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:55 am
by Billy Batz
Almost. Not enough taht youd need to change anything. You need a 1K screen grid resistor jumping pins 4 and 6 on each socket if it doesnt have that value already.

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:09 pm
by daveghr
so i can use the sockets that came with the kit? and instead of using the default 470 ohm resistor in the kit just substitute it with a 1k 5 watt one?

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:29 pm
by Flames1950
Yep....... :wink:

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:34 pm
by daveghr
thanks so much... it'll be a sweet power section :D

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:49 pm
by jbzoso2002
another thing to think about the standard heyborer output trans
has an 8k primary impeadence. el34's like 3.4k. the el34's will
work and wont damage anything but wont sound as good as they
can. if you have a radio spares replica opt it has a 6.6k primary
and sounds good with either tube. i put el34's in my jtm45 clone
and i didnot like the tone. kt66's sounded way better in that amp
8)

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:54 pm
by jbzoso2002
dont forget what flames said about the 1k 5watters
if you dont change them and an el34 blowes it will
take your output transformer with it. besides after you
change these resistors you can use el34.s 6l6's kt66"s
5881's with the 1k 5w 8)

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:05 pm
by jbzoso2002
dont forget what flames said about the 1k 5watters
if you dont change them and an el34 blowes it will
take your output transformer with it. besides after you
change these resistors you can use el34.s 6l6's kt66"s
5881's with the 1k 5w 8)

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:34 pm
by daveghr
i was gonna get the mercury magnetics upgrade for the kit. does that have a lower primary impedance? what does the tone with the el34s sound like in comparison with the kt66s?

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:25 am
by jbzoso2002
read the output tube description at the top of the tube forum
very good desciption of the tube's sound :shock: