Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

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Does your vintage Marshall 4-12 have a painted baffle?

Yes, painted black.
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No, raw wood.
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Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by VelvetGeorge » Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:23 pm

Working on the True Replica cabs and a few people pointed out that their cabs have painted baffles. My '68 straight and slant cabs that we used for our specs did not. I think we need to gather a consensus on which way is more typical, and possibly determine when they started being painted consistently.
I'm going to production on these cabs soon and will need to make a call one way or the other.

Please limit votes to cabs from '68 or earlier. And if you could post actual years in this thread, that data will help as well.


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Re: Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by neikeel » Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:47 pm

Do I answer for the three cabs I have (late 68, early 69 x2) all 6" logos, all corner triangles all have painted front and edges of speaker cut outs 8)
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Re: Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by shakti » Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:47 pm

My '67 is not painted. I know this for a fact as I am currently restoring it, and have it all in pieces and cleaned down to the bare wood. The baffle shows absolutely no signs of ever having been painted.

My two '70 cabs I'm not sure about...would have to look carefully.
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Re: Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by 908ssp » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:28 pm

If I were to buy one of your cabs would you make me a 69 version with painted baffle? I really don't like the way the none painted baffle looks especially in photos.

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Re: Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by Scumback Speakers » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:15 am

My 68 slant is painted. So were my two 69's and 70, before I got offered stupid money for them, and turned them into my wife's engagement ring. If you're going to do it at all, paint the baffles black. Otherwise, like Alex said, they're going to look stupid with lights and photographs.
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Re: Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by VelvetGeorge » Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:43 pm

Sorry Neil, I didn't account for voting on multiple cabs. My oversight there.

What I'm trying to get at is, should I overlook that my cabs are not painted and paint the true replica baffles? If we can establish that cabs from '67-68 did sometimes have them painted, then it would be acceptable.

I've been looking through early Hendrix pics and can't tell one way or the other. They certainly don't look stupid in any way. In fact, those pics tend to be THE iconic Marshall shots for me. The ones that make me want plexi era Marshall cabs.

Alex, I'll be happy to paint upon request. But, ultimately I'm looking for enough evidence to make the call on painting all the True Replica cabs.


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Re: Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by MLD » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:25 am

I have two '68 slant cabs and two '68 straight cabs and all four baffles are raw wood.

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Re: Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by Alnico » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:46 am

My early '66 and early '68 pinstripes have unpainted baffles. My later '68 basketweaves have painted baffles. I think if you're going to use basketweave, a painted baffle looks better.

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Re: Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by Scumback Speakers » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:44 am

Looks like Marshall decided to go with painted baffle boards later, and unpainted up till early 68. Of course, as usual, Marshall had extended "overlap" periods with regard to features. I've seen two 68 slants (one being mine, another being a client's I worked on) and they both had painted baffle boards.

I've owned four 69 cabs, multiple 70-74 cabs, all were painted. Go figure...

Good old Marshall...consistently inconsistent. :lol:
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Re: Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by VelvetGeorge » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:28 am

Yep, good 'ol Marshall. Glad we are establishing a time when they seemed to change over. What if I painted the basketweaves and didn't paint the pinstripes? Except by request.

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Re: Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by 62sg » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:03 pm

VelvetGeorge wrote:Yep, good 'ol Marshall. Glad we are establishing a time when they seemed to change over. What if I painted the basketweaves and didn't paint the pinstripes? Except by request.

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VG...with certain lighting, the unpainted baffle likely will show throught the ps cloth.

Is there any advantage to having them bare wood? I can think of none.
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Re: Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by VelvetGeorge » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:52 pm

Era correctness is the only thing I can think of. But it seems to make sense to just paint them all. I don't think anyone is going to be disappointed to find their baffle painted.

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Re: Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by 62sg » Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:16 pm

VelvetGeorge wrote: it seems to make sense to just paint them all.
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now you're talkin'.... :!:
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Post by Scumback Speakers » Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:42 pm

62sg wrote: now you're talkin'.... :!:
Actually he's kinda talking out loud...not to us... :lol:
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Re: Poll: painted baffle on '68 and earlier Marshall 4-12 cabs?

Post by vanhalen5150 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:45 am

My '67 straight has raw wood.
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