Slaving is quite damn awesome.

[efraser68]

Roger ~ yes the HotPlate was set to load. One cabinet, line out from HP looping the EQ and Reverb over to the Peavy 60/60. Just picked up my own Peavy 60/60 from Guitar Center Online for $250.

[mapat]

Roger ~ yes the HotPlate was set to load. One cabinet, line out from HP looping the EQ and Reverb over to the Peavy 60/60. Just picked up my own Peavy 60/60 from Guitar Center Online for $250.

If you have time, could we have some clips of this setup?

Ever since Kevin posted his last YRGM clip, I've been wanting to hear more slaving.

[efraser68]

I recorded this sound clip of first the slave setup with the Peavy 60/60 and then just straight Hot Plate attenuating. Don't know if this is the greatest A/B clip to judge as the straight Hot Plate sounds a tad quieter which might sound like it has more compression.

But as far as playing at gigging volumes, the slave setup wins because of the amount of compression it's able to maintain vs. just going Hot Plate.

First is Slave, second matching clip is just Hot Plate:
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[JimiJames]

Thanks for these clips, man! Excellent examples and playing!
Spongy squishy saggy & chewy.
Less of being in the studio, an EQ & a phaser... what else ?

..."But as far as playing at gigging volumes, the slave setup wins because of the amount of compression it's able to maintain vs. just going Hot Plate."...

Good to know.

[efraser68]

Thanks Jimi, that clip was my Les Paul and mic on the GB 6402 with the Audix i5 mic on the grill slightly to the right. The verb was coming from the line out into the RV 7 Hardwire Reverb pedal. The straight attenuation was with some verb in post. I'm really happy with the amount of gain on this setup even without a DSD. And there's no where to hide with these rigs...so responsive to the pick attack too!

[WillSync]

I checked out some of your soundcloud clips.

I hear good tone and playing. Nice work.

Will.

[Tone Slinger]

Great sounding clips Eric,but I have a question about how a slaved rig feels in one's hands. I remember getting an ADA preamp and running it into a poweramp(I had a El-34 equiped Marshall PAmp then later a 6l6 Mesa/Boogie). I got a different 'feel' from this set up as compared to my other rigs from this era (2204,jubilee,2205,etc). I assumed that it had something to do with what a lone top sounded like compared to the seperate preamp,poweramp thing.I had a slant Marshall 4/12 with 6402's back then(I have another cab with 6402's now because of that one).

Is there a noticable difference in the feel?

[efraser68]

Well I imagine a 68 Plexi replica into a power amp would feel different than a ADA preamp going in. This setup still feels like I'm playing the head, there is some smoothness and bottom end added too.

[mapat]

Thanks for the clip Eric.

At first I thought the difference was almost too subtle to notice, but after listening with headphones I heard the slaved part of the clip as having more of a distinct clarity versus the attenuated portion.

Now that you've had time to own and play a Mod5 amp and a straight 12000 series plexi, can you describe the differences in how they feel in the hands? I think I've heard clips of Mark playing one of his amps where you can hear a certain amount of sag and pleasant squish depending on what riff was being played, but I don't know if I've heard that from other folks playing Mod5 amps.

How does one setup compare vs the other in terms of responsiveness, liveliness, and so forth.

[julkke]

Great tone Eric! Are you still pulling two tubes on the 12 series?

[efraser68]

Thanks for the clip Eric.

At first I thought the difference was almost too subtle to notice, but after listening with headphones I heard the slaved part of the clip as having more of a distinct clarity versus the attenuated portion.

Now that you've had time to own and play a Mod5 amp and a straight 12000 series plexi, can you describe the differences in how they feel in the hands? I think I've heard clips of Mark playing one of his amps where you can hear a certain amount of sag and pleasant squish depending on what riff was being played, but I don't know if I've heard that from other folks playing Mod5 amps.

How does one setup compare vs the other in terms of responsiveness, liveliness, and so forth.

I'd say the main difference is the openness in the mids and the true sizzle that can be achieved. The JCM 800 Mod 5 had plenty of compression, but needed a bit more hair, not gain. Found the same to be true of the Bray we tried out.

[efraser68]

Great tone Eric! Are you still pulling two tubes on the 12 series?

Hey thanks julkke, no tube pulling this time around although I remember liking what it did to the amp at low volumes.

[dirtycooter]

I have to bumpitize this thread and bring it back up.....

So I see where I could find these same resistors Blix was using. But they are 16ohm 120w. I am thinkin of pickin up 4 of these-wiring series parallel like a speaker cab and makin my own static load box. This will give me 480w vs the single 300w resistor Blix was using.
I already have Blix's same exact lineout box-and now I have a matrix gt1000 as well.
Blix if your out there.... how is this thing holdin together? You still using this thing this way??

[Blix]

I have to bumpitize this thread and bring it back up.....

So I see where I could find these same resistors Blix was using. But they are 16ohm 120w. I am thinkin of pickin up 4 of these-wiring series parallel like a speaker cab and makin my own static load box. This will give me 480w vs the single 300w resistor Blix was using.
I already have Blix's same exact lineout box-and now I have a matrix gt1000 as well.
Blix if your out there.... how is this thing holdin together? You still using this thing this way??

Oh hey I missed your post. My stuff is still working fine, but it's not like it's been used a lot. Haven't gigged with that stuff yet.
I don't have the Matrix at home at the moment either so I can't fool around with it.

My resistor is a 300w btw, from eBay.

[rgalpin]

Bought this huge badass load resistor on eBay a while ago and finally had the time to wire it up and try some slaving tonight.





Plugged my trusty old 83' Pacer into the Bugera 1960, cranked everything but bass to 10. Speaker out to the CAE Line-out box, from the CAE to the load resistor. The CAE line-out went to a Neunaber WET, then into the Matrix GT1000FX.
The clip is recorded at near bedroom volume, could gig anywhere with this setup.
Just some mindless noodling, but you get the drift....

And this is just a simple resistive resistor, no fancy reactive stuff!
Added a bit of delay in post for stereo spread.

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had to go look up Bugera after re-listening to this clip. blix - your clip sounds better than any of the other clips i heard on the net. that is some sweet stuff right there. a little fluffier than a plexi but man so dang sassy when you spank it. has that great envelope response to it with both the lead single string stuff and the chords. that is cool.