whoa sounds close to evh

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:54 am

68 era superlead spec( .022 output coupling caps)
exceptions: 500pf's in place of the 560pf's and a 820(searching for alittle more gain i believe the 820 got me more) on v1b instead of 2.7k. and bright coupling is .0022 power board is still 50u on mains and 50u on screens - 100uf PI cap

les paul / jim wagners shredder pickup / PPIMV on 2

(excuse the out of tuneness and need of new strings as well as not playing some things note for note! - just woke up and i still havnet reached my quota of caffeine

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dry rhythm
http://www.markabrahamian.com/rockstah_ ... ec_dry.mp3

some verb and fakin it!
http://www.markabrahamian.com/rockstah_ ... c_verb.mp3

comments are welcome,

Mark

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:25 pm

not a one comment? you bastages!

whateva!

Bainzy · Post by **Bainzy** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:34 pm

Sounds very close! Excellent clip

The problem seems when it's fat sounding, it doesn't have enough cut or treble, and now that you've added some cut/treble it seems to be lacking a bit in low end warmth. Maybe it's impossible to get the right balance without the MXR EQ?

JasonC · Post by **JasonC** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:18 pm

Sounds great man, nice clip.

mystery_of_the_quotient · Post by **mystery_of_the_quotient** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:31 pm

Hello Mark,

I'm new to this board, but my ears have heard a few amps in my time, so here goes:

Comparing to VH1, your tone is perhaps a bit too gainey, especially on the low end. There is also a little more sponge happening as well, as if the amp just can't give any more, as in muy grande power amp sag. But in the upper register, it sounds killer, so you are really really close.

Er, I bet it's also kinda LOUD as well . . .

I would like to hear something like ZZ's Beer Drinkers played through your current build. I think that is one of the nastiest tones ever layed down, and from what I hear you have pretty much nailed that tone.

More clips, please! Perhaps the obligatory You Really Got Me . . .

Matt

erigm · Post by **erigm** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:42 pm

Hey, I think that sounds awesome!!! I mean it sounds so close. I don't think its lacking warmth (maybe a smidge), but that probably had a lot to do with the mic pres and compression and analog tape in the studio. I think the effects are close, but not quite there. To sum up ... I think you have the sound, you just need to get the post effects right. Nice work! And hey, that master volume sounds great too. I have a PPIMV in my Laney that I rebuilt, but it is the one with caps on both sides of the pot and the ground lug going to ground. Doesn't affect the bias that way. I wonder which sounds better?

erigm

MacGaden · Post by **MacGaden** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:13 pm

Hi Mark:

Just listened to your clips with good headphones on: Here´s what you need to do:

STEP AWAY FROM THAT AMP ! IT´S DONE !

Next: Run, don´t walk out and get two new Heritage 30´s. Put them in your cab in an X-pattern.

Next: Run out and get a Humbucker with less output, though Ralle used a JB !, and pick up a pickguard with a humbucker cut. Put it on you California Strat. It has the "Swimming Pool" rout, so it´ll just drop in.

Rent a rehersal space. Drag your amp, guitar and recording gear down there.

Crank your amp, and play till you´re good and hot. Play "Eruption" and Record it.

Post it. You´ll be the new king !!!

Sounds grat Mark. Congratulations. After 2020 posts..

And next year you´ll demo George´s 12000 series at his booth an NAMM.

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:16 pm

hey guys thanks for the posts - some more sounds for thought - same everything - the way it was recorded as well as specs - EXCEPT now 32u on PI ( cap on top) 50uf on mains 33u in series for 16.5uf on screens ( i guess

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dry rhythm
http://www.markabrahamian.com/rockstah_ ... c_dry2.mp3

some verb and fakin it!
http://www.markabrahamian.com/rockstah_ ... _verb2.mp3

still tweekin and lovin it
Mark

its apparent at this point ineed to play more and sniff less solder

but you get the point!

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:01 pm

dude,your playing is beyond awsome!i dig the tone as well!

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:03 pm

thanks Stan!

5150loveeddie · Post by **5150loveeddie** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:44 pm

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:02 pm

ampSnob · Post by **ampSnob** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:36 pm

Wow Nice Tone!!!! Interesting to hear a side by side with just the filter caps changed. (Great playing too I might add) I think I like the way the 33s in series sound a little better. Thanks for sharing all your experimentation. Now I don't have to try all this stuff myself

-Clay

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:22 am

welcome!

DELANEY · Post by **DELANEY** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:51 am

rockstah wrote:not a one comment? you bastages! whateva!

You know I like it...

The ultimate goal is to sound like you have a boosted Marshall with no boosts.

You should feel sorry that you are going to mentally incapacitate the guys that aren't so sure their Marshall can do that.

You did it exactly right man, start from stock and work your way back through the circuits one at a time, untill you get what you want.

I think this is why this knowledge gets lost on how to get there, becuase when someone asks , "howd you get it to sound like that".... well its longer then a full sentance answer.... so it dissappates on the remembered word. Also, differences in components make you attack voice/gain in different ways... the tweeking may be slightly different between the same type of amp. You can't hand a list and say.... "Then there shall be light to break the barrier of endless darkness"

As you told me, its yours now and no one can take that away from you.

Congratulations cuz,

Now to get rid of the MV..... hmmmmmmm