I just ordered one of these...
Moderators: VelvetGeorge, BUG
- Bainzy
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2119
- Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:44 am
- Just the numbers in order: 7
- Location: Bingley, UK
- Contact:
Looks great - can't wait for some 12000 series clips!!!!!
"I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you"
Shred Guitar
Plexi Mods - now with new forum, please join!
Shred Guitar
Plexi Mods - now with new forum, please join!
- Star*Guitar
- Senior Member
- Posts: 1572
- Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:48 am
- Just the numbers in order: 7
- VelvetGeorge
- Site Owner
- Posts: 7233
- Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:12 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Location: The Murder Mitten
- Contact:
Sure, here's a clip of the version that was "mastered" and released. With a little back story.
I wrote this years ago as a guitar part that reminded me of an organ groove. Later, it was adapted for the band you hear in this clip. Then, with some power struggles happening in the studio, it was mixed, sped up and supposedly "mastered". Without my involvement.
What you hear in this clip is what came back.
I'll let you listen first, then we can talk about any one of the myriad of things that are wrong and why the so called mastering engineer needs to be socked in the jaw....
george
I wrote this years ago as a guitar part that reminded me of an organ groove. Later, it was adapted for the band you hear in this clip. Then, with some power struggles happening in the studio, it was mixed, sped up and supposedly "mastered". Without my involvement.
What you hear in this clip is what came back.
I'll let you listen first, then we can talk about any one of the myriad of things that are wrong and why the so called mastering engineer needs to be socked in the jaw....
george
- Attachments
-
- Losin U (2).mp3
- (988.67 KiB) Downloaded 97 times
- VelvetGeorge
- Site Owner
- Posts: 7233
- Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:12 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Location: The Murder Mitten
- Contact:
- NY Chief
- Wiki Editor
- Posts: 6589
- Joined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:02 pm
- Location: SoCal
Ahhh, like the old days. Throw a rug over him and beat with a bat (eh, Billy).
George, I'm done spackling and sanding. The end is in sight!!!
I'm still going back and forth between a dedicated DAW or a 'puter set up. Doing all the research I can. The last gear I recorded on was that, ah, tape stuff. Yeah, that's what it was called!
This is a valuable thread for me. PLease keep then inof flowing guys.
Hey, ain't it about time for a Metro Neve console kit????
George, I'm done spackling and sanding. The end is in sight!!!
I'm still going back and forth between a dedicated DAW or a 'puter set up. Doing all the research I can. The last gear I recorded on was that, ah, tape stuff. Yeah, that's what it was called!
This is a valuable thread for me. PLease keep then inof flowing guys.
Hey, ain't it about time for a Metro Neve console kit????
NY Chief 5-0, transplanted in SoCal
"Book 'em, Dan-o!"
"Book 'em, Dan-o!"
Yeah, it's mostly the mud in the low-mids that's the problem. Like they boosted 250 Hz from-here-to-breakfast. That's accentuating the verb on the kick too, which adds to the mud. It kinda sounds like the mastering engineer thought that the mix was too thin and was trying to fatten it up to compensate. But with the verb on the kick and that bass which already has enough low mids in it, it just created a puddle.
I hate it when bad things happen to good riffs!
I hate it when bad things happen to good riffs!
- VelvetGeorge
- Site Owner
- Posts: 7233
- Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:12 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Location: The Murder Mitten
- Contact:
The direct affect of WAY over compressing a mix. Period.
There are no dynamics left, whatsoever. Your ears are tired by the first chorus.
The limiting has brought the reverb up and it sounds rediculous.
How about that nasty "shh" sound on every vocal phrase? Nice huh?
No depth or sense of dimension what so ever. All too common these day. Any jerkoff with a maximizer can pumel a mix into a square wave.
Compare this waveform to any great recording and you'll see it plain as day.
George
There are no dynamics left, whatsoever. Your ears are tired by the first chorus.
The limiting has brought the reverb up and it sounds rediculous.
How about that nasty "shh" sound on every vocal phrase? Nice huh?
No depth or sense of dimension what so ever. All too common these day. Any jerkoff with a maximizer can pumel a mix into a square wave.
Compare this waveform to any great recording and you'll see it plain as day.
George
- mightymike
- Senior Member
- Posts: 3757
- Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:53 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Contact:
Most of the music out today is way overcompressed.
Then the music, goes to a radio station, and they compress the hell out of it again. Building my own amps really has opened my ears to this, as far as guitar goes. It's exilerating when you play along with your favorite song, and your gear sounds more dynamic, but still has that same recognizeble signature sound to nail the song your playing. Thanks George.
Everyone talks about how great the grind is with these plexi,but many don't realize how pretty the clean is, especialy with a strat. (maybe it's partly my guitar - A Swamp Ash Fat Strat Brian Moore with a 5A Koa Top, Duncan Aps2 single coils, and a JB in the Bridge with the Wilkenson Trem, it is sweet, better than all the Les Pauls Standards and CS Strats I tried, and able to get the tones of both, but better) I really hope when I get this recording gear, that I can capture this.
After I get the Multiface and Monitor Speakers.
Im gonna rent a bunch of preamps and mics to find my perfect recipe
for recording a Marshall.
Then the music, goes to a radio station, and they compress the hell out of it again. Building my own amps really has opened my ears to this, as far as guitar goes. It's exilerating when you play along with your favorite song, and your gear sounds more dynamic, but still has that same recognizeble signature sound to nail the song your playing. Thanks George.
Everyone talks about how great the grind is with these plexi,but many don't realize how pretty the clean is, especialy with a strat. (maybe it's partly my guitar - A Swamp Ash Fat Strat Brian Moore with a 5A Koa Top, Duncan Aps2 single coils, and a JB in the Bridge with the Wilkenson Trem, it is sweet, better than all the Les Pauls Standards and CS Strats I tried, and able to get the tones of both, but better) I really hope when I get this recording gear, that I can capture this.
After I get the Multiface and Monitor Speakers.
Im gonna rent a bunch of preamps and mics to find my perfect recipe
for recording a Marshall.
- VelvetGeorge
- Site Owner
- Posts: 7233
- Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:12 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Location: The Murder Mitten
- Contact:
- VelvetGeorge
- Site Owner
- Posts: 7233
- Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:12 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Location: The Murder Mitten
- Contact:
Here's a few pics of the N72's in the rack offered by seventh circle audio. Great pres and very cool project. I look forward to building other varieties of preamps he offers. And I highly recommend them.
The modules below the rack are my Telefunkens. I've learned that these are actually just line amps. But (4) of them do have input transformers.
And they sound nice. Much better than the Mackie pres.
george
The modules below the rack are my Telefunkens. I've learned that these are actually just line amps. But (4) of them do have input transformers.
And they sound nice. Much better than the Mackie pres.
george
- Attachments
-
- mic pres.jpg
- (80.01 KiB) Downloaded 829 times
-
- N72's.jpg
- (76.26 KiB) Downloaded 829 times
- Star*Guitar
- Senior Member
- Posts: 1572
- Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:48 am
- Just the numbers in order: 7
- VelvetGeorge
- Site Owner
- Posts: 7233
- Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:12 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Location: The Murder Mitten
- Contact:
- mightymike
- Senior Member
- Posts: 3757
- Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2004 8:53 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Contact: