Preamping a Super Lead with a small tweed ala Ace Frehley ?

[Tone Slinger]

I read in an old guitar mag that Eddie Kramer recorded Ace Frehley's Tracks on 'Rock And Roll Over' using a "Small Fender tweed preamping into a Marhall to get that front end crunch". How would this be done exactly ? I always loved Ace's lead sound on that record and am curious to this scenario.

[Big Mike]

You could hook up a dummy load with a line out.

Like, say a tweed deluxe, unhook the speaker and send it the poweramp out to a hot plate set to dummy load, then take the line out into the input on the bigger amp.

[Son of Skoora]

I actualy did that with a THD Univalve's line out into a 2203 I used to own. It sounds good but gets very noisy. It didn't sound any better than a good choice of pedal (which they didn't have when recording Rock n Roll Over).

[thousandshirts]

Randy Bachman used to use a little tweed Champ to do the same thing, but continually fried amps. So Gar Gilles of Garnet Amps devised a safe way to achieve the same result, called the Herzog. The sound of this unit is heard most famously on "American Woman."

http://www.garnetamps.com/zog_story.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Schematic:

http://www.schematicheaven.com/bargainb ... _h-zog.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[rsi]

So the "Herzog" amp is actually named after the Saul Bellow book? That is really random.

[thousandshirts]

So the "Herzog" amp is actually named after the Saul Bellow book? That is really random.

Yep. There you go.