Dagnall T-2562 schematic

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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by Mxzx » Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:46 am

Yeah I know you did!! I just figured by the time I dressed the leads, I might as well just solder it in place. It didn't take all that long!

So for voltage checks, I have 6.1vac across the heater leads at the tube socket. I have 370vac across the two leads where they go to the turret board. This was done on standby with no speaker load.

Does the 100v thinwall get measured at the filter cap?

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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by neikeel » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:02 am

The 100v is the ac bias feed so gets measured on the board where it hooks to the 27k bias feed resistor and ground
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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by Mxzx » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:18 am

Thanks, I'll track it down and measure.

Do the other values seem okay?

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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by Mxzx » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:36 am

I only appear to have about 4.4vac across those terminals in standby mode?

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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by neikeel » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:30 pm

Maybe why your outputs were redplating - no bias!

There is a way around this by taking the ac bias from one half of the ac feed from the HT but the bias feed resistor will need to be much bigger.

If 100vac needs a 27k and you probably have 180vac on half the HT. my 50w on bench now has 335vac using 220k dropper so 120-150k maybe good place to start.
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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by Mxzx » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:24 pm

Okay, I'll see what I have around here.

Do you think that circuit in the tranny is shot or could I possibly have mis wired?

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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by neikeel » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:55 pm

Mxzx wrote:Okay, I'll see what I have around here.

Do you think that circuit in the tranny is shot or could I possibly have mis wired?
If you measure between the two thin walled leads (usually green and white) then possibly.
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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by Mxzx » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:10 pm

neikeel wrote:
Mxzx wrote:Okay, I'll see what I have around here.

Do you think that circuit in the tranny is shot or could I possibly have mis wired?
If you measure between the two thin walled leads (usually green and white) then possibly.
Yeah, the one goes to the resistor, and the other to ground. Does it matter which side is sent to ground? Maybe I have it backwards?

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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by Mxzx » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:30 pm

I pulled both thin wall wires and measured. I am getting 60 vac on each one?

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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by neikeel » Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:13 am

Mxzx wrote:I pulled both thin wall wires and measured. I am getting 60 vac on each one?
You mean across the pair? it is one continuous coil (see schematic), no centre tap and it is AC so you should see 60vac -same with your leads reversed :wink:
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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by Mxzx » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:05 am

No, I was getting 60vac on each leg when checking to ground?

When I unsoldered the ground, I have 60vac at bias resistor??

I'm thinking I did something wrong, but they were the only two thin walled wires on the transformer.

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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by Mxzx » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:07 am

Just rechecked. I definatley have 50-60vac on each thinwall wire when checking to ground. When I go across the two I only have 4.4vac?

I have the covers off the transformer, and it seems to be getting pretty warm on the sides of coils. Is this normal?

I'm thinking it might just be time to get a new transformer? Since ****** seems to be gone, what do you guys recommend?

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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by neikeel » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:33 am

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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by Mxzx » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:13 am

Thanks. I just shot them an email.

I was just wondering if the amp will bias with 60vac?

Is it possible that this transformer would have 2 60vac taps for some reason? Could this be for a 50w JMP?

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Re: Dagnall T-2562 schematic

Post by neikeel » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:03 pm

Mxzx wrote:Thanks. I just shot them an email.

I was just wondering if the amp will bias with 60vac?
Not reliably as it is under par already
Mxzx wrote:Is it possible that this transformer would have 2 60vac taps for some reason? Could this be for a 50w JMP?
Not 50w with bias feed like this.

Have you checke that you are using the correct primary taps as if you are using the 220v tap and feeding with 120v you could get this low reading, check what HT you are getting.
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