Metro zero loss fx loop in a JCM800

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RussB
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Metro zero loss fx loop in a JCM800

Post by RussB » Sat May 04, 2013 4:52 pm

I installed the Metro zero loss fx loop in my 1990 2204. This is a later version with the higher voltages. Here's how it went down...

1. I was using a 20k R29 resistor (schematic is 10k) to drop some voltage going to the 12AX7's. To maintain the ~335v I had there, I had to use a 15k R29. The decoupling resistor to the FX Loop is 22k which gives me ~305 volts. The desired range is 285v - 310v so I'm right in there.

Note that if you're installing the zero loss fx loop in a stock post-1986 2204 circuit, you will see ~385v at R29, and have to adjust the loop decoupling resistor accordingly (somewhere around 56k I reckon)

2. The R14 jumper wire is the connection between the master volume and the treble pot wiper. This is where I tapped into the PCB. It makes for a very clean installation.

3. I grounded the in/out wire shield and the FX Loop board at the filter cap, which is where a lead from the PCB is also grounded

4. Drilling the holes. Measure twice, drill once. Take your time and make sure you follow the Metro directions. I clamped a piece of wood in the chassis as recommended which makes for a hole with less burrs. I drilled the "big holes" with a Uni-Bit, then chamfered them by hand. I put the switch opposite of where Metro shows so it wouldn't be through the printing on the chassis. It seems "right" for a hang-down combo chassis

5. FX Loop Level. I used a signal generator - load box - DMM set to A/C. I match the "Loop On" level to the "Loop Off" level. I set the loop level trim pot by measuring the A/C signal going into the load box.

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FX loop PCB. I doubled up the orange fiber washers for a better fit against the chassis. Note the switch is upside down compared to the instructions. This is because the combo chassis hangs down from the top of the cabinet

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Here's the Loop's in/out wires replacing the R14 jumper,

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The shield (white wire) and FX PCB ground (black wire with printing) connection to the pre-amp filter cap and PCB ground

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Loop decoupling/dropping resistor (22k) connected to R29 (15k in my amp, ~340v)

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Jacks & switch,

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Chassis, I ran the FX loop power wire along the edge of the PCB and fastened it with zip ties,

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I hope this helps 8)

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Re: Metro zero loss fx loop in a JCM800

Post by stump » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:48 pm

Hey Russ, nice work as usual. I've been thinking about putting a loop in my 1983 4104, but just can't bring myself to mod a perfect specimen. Also considered making a head cab for it, it will hang upside down, but then I figure why not just keep it stock. In the end, I'm just going to build a 2204 that I can do whatever I want to it.

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Re: Metro zero loss fx loop in a JCM800

Post by RussB » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:10 pm

HI Jeff! :rock:

Speaking of putting combo chassis' in a head box, that's what I did with my 4010,

from this,

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To this. Jeff Swanson built the cabs for me.

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