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Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive (1959 4 Gain Stage) Mod.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:04 am
by rockstah
looks real good. nice job. ;)

Mark

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive (1959 4 Gain Stage) Mod.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:10 am
by vlad
Great stuff!

Pardon my ignorance, but what are the caps and diodes on the right hand side of the amp (1000uf/25uf etc...) used for?

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive (1959 4 Gain Stage) Mod.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:19 pm
by xenrelic
vlad wrote:Great stuff!

Pardon my ignorance, but what are the caps and diodes on the right hand side of the amp (1000uf/25uf etc...) used for?

Thanks, vlad. That's the 12vdc heater circuit for V1 and V2. I installed it to reduce hum and to run the relay switching that I install with this mod for channel switching.

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive (1959 4 Gain Stage) Mod.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:29 pm
by vlad
xenrelic wrote:
vlad wrote:Great stuff!

Pardon my ignorance, but what are the caps and diodes on the right hand side of the amp (1000uf/25uf etc...) used for?

Thanks, vlad. That's the 12vdc heater circuit for V1 and V2. I installed it to reduce hum and to run the relay switching that I install with this mod to switch between 2 different sets of pre and master pots, also to switch between the vintage and modern inputs. I will update the layout with the relay switching in version 5 once I figure out how to get the input switching part quiet and smooth enough to be worth sharing with you guys.
Awesome man! I appreciate the info! :)

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive Hi Gain Plexi Mod.

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:58 am
by xenrelic
Updated the layout.

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive Hi Gain Plexi Mod.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:26 am
by xenrelic
New version up!

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive Hi Gain Plexi Mod.

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:10 am
by Homebelly
Hi...

I'm looking to build some thing like this and i'm wondering if there might be a layout utilizing the foot switch option with the additional channel volume controls.

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive Hi Gain Plexi Mod.

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:59 pm
by gf3364
Hi!

I was curious as to the brand/model transformer you used for your DC Heaters & the brand/part # of the relay?

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive Hi Gain Plexi Mod.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:15 pm
by xenrelic
I use the Philmore 24v (12v-0v-12v) 500mA (with a full wave rectifier with capacitor), for the DC heaters on the first two preamp tubes to an LM7812 12V positive voltage regulator. For the relay switching I use an LM7815 5v positive voltage regulator from the LM7812 input node and Omron G5V-2-H1-DC5 relays.

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive Hi Gain Plexi Mod.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:52 pm
by xenrelic
New version up.

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive Hi Gain Plexi Mod.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:33 am
by malig
Hi Xenrelic, What is the effect of putting the zener on the gain instead of the volume pot ?

Your layout is breathtaking :drool:

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive Hi Gain Plexi Mod.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:32 am
by xenrelic
It's an asymmetrical clipping circuit that is designed to emulate power tube distortion and works best after the final gain stage that is fed by a large coupling capacitor around .22uF to .33uF depending on how much bass response is wanted. Lower values from .022uF to .1uF, don't seem to work very well and can cause undesired results.

I notice a really cool grinding sustain that occurs, when engaged just before the pre-tonestack master volume.

If you were to experiment with diode clipping earlier in the preamp stages, I would check out the different types of clipping available as well. Possibly starting with a symmetrical clipping circuit that utilizes germanium diodes or a hybrid combination of silicon and germanium.

Maybe something like this (just for shits and giggles): http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1068/p1040560q.jpg You can also try moving the 33k resistor between to the gain pot wiper and the input grid of V1B.

Here's some different types of clipping you can try along with a great article about it.

http://www.cubisteffects.com/images/MIY ... mmetry.jpg

http://www.effectrode.com/blackbird-vac ... -explained

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive Hi Gain Plexi Mod.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:21 am
by xenrelic
Updated the Version 3 layout with the pre-tonestack master volume.

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive Hi Gain Plexi Mod.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:49 am
by malig
xenrelic wrote:It's an asymmetrical clipping circuit that is designed to emulate power tube distortion and works best after the final gain stage that is fed by a large coupling capacitor around .22uF to .33uF depending on how much bass response is wanted. Lower values from .022uF to .1uF, don't seem to work very well and can cause undesired results.

I notice a really cool grinding sustain that occurs, when engaged just before the pre-tonestack master volume.

If you were to experiment with diode clipping earlier in the preamp stages, I would check out the different types of clipping available as well. Possibly starting with a symmetrical clipping circuit that utilizes germanium diodes or a hybrid combination of silicon and germanium.

Maybe something like this (just for shits and giggles): http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1068/p1040560q.jpg You can also try moving the 33k resistor between to the gain pot wiper and the input grid of V1B.

Here's some different types of clipping you can try along with a great article about it.

http://www.cubisteffects.com/images/MIY ... mmetry.jpg

http://www.effectrode.com/blackbird-vac ... -explained
Thank you so much.

Re: Xenrelic Luminary Overdrive Hi Gain Plexi Mod.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:51 am
by xenrelic
Made a change to the version 3 layout, the wire from the plate of stage 4 to the 10k resistor should not be shielded like in the previous drawing.