Original 68 JMP 50 Lead,

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Re: Original 68 JMP 50 Lead,

Post by Tazin » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:44 pm

Don't be fooled by the red dye since there are people out there that copy it very well. You can tell who ever worked on the amp did reproduced the red dye because you see it on the Bulgin socket (incorrect version btw), and you see it on the following solder joints: the switches, the bias caps, middle lug of the Treble pot. And all these parts have been changed or altered.

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Re: Original 68 JMP 50 Lead,

Post by Rasputin1176 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:50 pm

That's sucks! And it's exactly why wanted to know.
One more thing to be leery of. You are competely right, there's dye on all the parts I know to be replaced.
I don't like people trying to hide shit, I'd buy an amp with work done just show what's been done.
But when price is factor it's obvious why people go to all trouble
Makes me feel ok about returning, sold wrong as lead & the other shady repairs.
Oh well next time I won't rush to make offer, it was about to sell & I figured no harm really since was refundable purchase? Still hassle but really did learn bit more.

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Re: Original 68 JMP 50 Lead,

Post by neikeel » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:01 am

I think that it would b every helpful to the online community (and other people who might be buying to know where this came from.
Restoration is fine and appears to be sympathetic - but why fake the dye on the clearly replaced Bulgin and the non-matrching bias caps :roll: ?
Shame I did not know but I (reluctantly) sold my late 68 recently for £2500 cash collected:
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I thought there were a few around and that was the going rate?
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Re: Original 68 JMP 50 Lead,

Post by Tazin » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:20 am

I don't have a problem with people reproducing the red dye on the solder joints as long as they state the replaced parts in the amp to the best of there knowledge.

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Re: Original 68 JMP 50 Lead,

Post by Tazin » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:32 am

neikeel wrote:I think that it would b every helpful to the online community (and other people who might be buying to know where this came from.
Restoration is fine and appears to be sympathetic - but why fake the dye on the clearly replaced Bulgin and the non-matrching bias caps :roll: ?
Shame I did not know but I (reluctantly) sold my late 68 recently for £2500 cash collected:
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I thought there were a few around and that was the going rate?
Neil did a great job cleaning up that '68 50w LEAD pictured. I believe he posted "before and after" pictures when he sold it so buyers knew exactly what he had done to the amp.
To me, the '68 50w LEAD is the ultimate amp for what I like. I always gravitate to it when ever I have a chance to plug into my amps.

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Re: Original 68 JMP 50 Lead,

Post by Rasputin1176 » Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:48 am

Exactly! Again in agreement. When someone who owns a music shop & claims tech checked amp & then doesn't list issues, or know that it's not a Bass model is sketchy....

I'll say this the shop has treated me well, always said could be refunded so that is happening now. They were selling on Reverb.com also great guys run that site & have like 50 5star ratings.
The store is Hanks Guitar Shop London. They seem to sell a lot of high end stuff where i assume people paying are going to be picky. Maybe was just mistake, maybe they didn't do the work restoring? But again I have to agree as I found a lot of the issues myself & am not a "tech".

Thankfully they are currently covering shipping, and pickup from my house + refund I can't complain too much.

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Re: Original 68 JMP 50 Lead,

Post by Tazin » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:34 pm

I took a look at some of the Marshall amps listed under Hanks Guitar Shop London and these guys are very misleading.
They've got a '69 Super Tremolo (Jan. - Feb. 1969) listed as a '67 and also a '69 Super Bass (late Feb. - early March 1969) listed as a '68 Super Lead.

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Re: Original 68 JMP 50 Lead,

Post by Rasputin1176 » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:40 pm

I noticed the wrong listed super lead too! I don't know if it's because lead models are hard to come by lately and all I come across are Bass, & that it makes people try to say they are lead to help sell? Who knows. It's stupid though, be honest and people will buy it anyway.

Don't get me wrong I like diff Marshall models, but I can only have 1 right now.
Also I'm fine with not all original IF it's represented in price. I'm not paying full original range prices for that. Less $ I'd be more inclined to change spec or other reversible mods.

Back to hunting sadly

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Re: Original 68 JMP 50 Lead,

Post by ender » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:49 pm

Tazin wrote:I took a look at some of the Marshall amps listed under Hanks Guitar Shop London and these guys are very misleading.
They've got a '69 Super Tremolo (Jan. - Feb. 1969) listed as a '67 and also a '69 Super Bass (late Feb. - early March 1969) listed as a '68 Super Lead.
Same experience here. One should Google '"Justin Harrison" Hanks guitar shop' to read up on this fella.

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Re: Original 68 JMP 50 Lead,

Post by axeman » Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:55 pm

Why

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Re: Original 68 JMP 50 Lead,

Post by ender » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:59 pm

axeman wrote:Why
Because common sense suggests doing a basic background check of a seller before purchasing a vintage amp?

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Re: Original 68 JMP 50 Lead,

Post by axeman » Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:14 am

No Shit!

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