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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by bmf5150 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:29 pm

I would say maybe little hotter than the 59,not alot!its just voiced for classic vh tone!mine is probably a couple years old I got it wright when Dave finished it with wade!
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by Marshall SL12301 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:28 am

bmf5150 wrote:I would say maybe little hotter than the 59,not alot!its just voiced for classic vh tone!mine is probably a couple years old I got it wright when Dave finished it with wade!
cool i cant find much info on it, what do you know about the whole dave/wade thing and this particular model? i know there was a black belt before this one but that was just a 8K paf i think?
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by bmf5150 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:48 pm

From what I know,Dave F like wades original black belt pickup,he wanted some differences in the pickup to get closer to what he wanted!i know one of the changes where the screw material used in the bobbin,gave it a different sound in the high end!the pickup was basically Dave going for the old Vh tone!
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by Tone Slinger » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:06 pm

I personally think that there isnt any ONE pu that sounds good through EVERY guitar or amp. For example, I liked the EVH pu in Stans clips better than the Blackbelt. It had more juice to it imo.

I find that my Duncan 'Custom Custom' sounds real good through most of my amps and guitars. It is most consistant imo. My DSD is more finicky, it needs less gain, and if pushed real hard with preamp gain, gets real thin and harsh.

My 9k awg42 A5 pick up is warm, but has alot of cut. It sounds pretty good , but needs at least MODERATE gain levels to smooth out a bit. I like a tad more mids, so I really dig my Custom Custom. The extra PUSH is welcomed too.

I need to revisit a JB again. My '87 Candy Apple Red Kramer Baretta had one (JB) but it got stole 10yrs ago, before I started to 'tinker' with electronics.

I'm looking for the warm mids and 'feel' (that Alnico feel)of my Custom Custom , but with maybe a slight bit more focus.

The JB may just be that.
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by Marshall SL12301 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:00 am

Tone Slinger wrote:I personally think that there isnt any ONE pu that sounds good through EVERY guitar or amp. For example, I liked the EVH pu in Stans clips better than the Blackbelt. It had more juice to it imo.

I find that my Duncan 'Custom Custom' sounds real good through most of my amps and guitars. It is most consistant imo. My DSD is more finicky, it needs less gain, and if pushed real hard with preamp gain, gets real thin and harsh.

My 9k awg42 A5 pick up is warm, but has alot of cut. It sounds pretty good , but needs at least MODERATE gain levels to smooth out a bit. I like a tad more mids, so I really dig my Custom Custom. The extra PUSH is welcomed too.

I need to revisit a JB again. My '87 Candy Apple Red Kramer Baretta had one (JB) but it got stole 10yrs ago, before I started to 'tinker' with electronics.

I'm looking for the warm mids and 'feel' (that Alnico feel)of my Custom Custom , but with maybe a slight bit more focus.

The JB may just be that.

TS IF you put a alnico II in the JB it is just like a CC with more "focus" bro :wink:

And i agree the same pu will not sound great in every guitar so if stan got his BB to sound great i may not have that same luck it is a real gamble especially when buying used where you cannot just exchange ther pu.
The ONLY pu i ever came across that was friendly is every guitar was the EMG's.
The newer X series EMG 85 is a killer pu, it is a lot like a more refined tone zone, not as boomy and still has that VH feel to it. I even like the 81X :shock: well so did gary moore he used the 81's in his heritage guitars and the one charvel had a EMG 85
the X series are definitely a step in the right direction for actives,these are very close to the passives in warmth and tone i knoiw had he not died gary would have switched from the originals to these. I love shuttin players up when they say EMG sound lifeless or sterile,i go really? have you heard gary moore use them or dave gilmour? :mrgreen:
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by Tone Slinger » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:21 am

Hey, isnt the Warren DeMartini pu basically a JB with an alnico 2 magnet ?
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by Star*Guitar » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:26 pm

I have a 2nd degree blackbelt in my PV HP Special. It is bascially a Wolfgang with split coils, big brass block on the floyd and has a stop you can engage and disengage to make the whammy float or just divebomb.

The second degree sounds just a tad thinner split, in a good way. Very VH1 like.
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by Marshall SL12301 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:36 pm

Tone Slinger wrote:Hey, isnt the Warren DeMartini pu basically a JB with an alnico 2 magnet ?
pretty much but it is not just a matter of the mag swap. I look at it like this the EVH and custom custom are very similar but NOT exact it is the same for the JB A2 and the WD RTM pu,really close but have slight differences
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by jnewlyn » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:12 pm

Hmm. Good observation. This VH video really does jump out in that single coil way. Very cool. I think however, this was only a brief period during this era. I don't really hear it in the early VH era as much. At least on the albums anyway. 8)
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by Marshall SL12301 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:30 pm

jnewlyn wrote:Hmm. Good observation. This VH video really does jump out in that single coil way. Very cool. I think however, this was only a brief period during this era. I don't really hear it in the early VH era as much. At least on the albums anyway. 8)
Yep his bucker was just about performing like a split duncan but still had some percentage of that damaged coil in play. It still was buckin some of the hum and added a touch of fattness over a true single like a fender.
This is why i posted about the duncan spin a split,it allows you to mimic this same thing and to your own taste :wink: trucst me you take the EVH frank or the duncan CC and use the spin a split mod you will dial in that exact chime/sparkle he got on the vid :toast:
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by jnewlyn » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:53 pm

I'd like to try it but in a strat with only one knob, I don't know how I'd make it happen. What I did do is use a CC and change the front coil to the lesser output 59 coil (59/CC hybrid) and yes, it works really well but not as single coil-ish as in this Ed clip. Front coil measures around 4KDC and the real coil was around 7KDC. Total output is like 10.9KDC. 8)
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by Marshall SL12301 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:47 pm

jnewlyn wrote:I'd like to try it but in a strat with only one knob, I don't know how I'd make it happen. What I did do is use a CC and change the front coil to the lesser output 59 coil (59/CC hybrid) and yes, it works really well but not as single coil-ish as in this Ed clip. Front coil measures around 4KDC and the real coil was around 7KDC. Total output is like 10.9KDC. 8)
Do like i did and use the old ed trick and just suff a pot in the control cavity? But if you strat has a scratchplate it is a little harder but still can be done,you have to hook up the pot and leave it dangle outside of the guitar while you find the setting you like then if it is something you really can use,simple make a second hole for another pot on the guard? OR just stuff it in the cavity and cover with the pickguard :wink:
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by jnewlyn » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:20 pm

OK so which coil is left full on and which one is rolled back or muted. I'm gonna assume the bridge side coil is left full on. :what:
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by Marshall SL12301 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:21 pm

either depending on the way you split the duncan? traditionally it is the stud side that gets tapped but can be wired for the screw coil On ed's the stud coil got fucked from the string getting caught in lip of the coil when diving the floyd.
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Re: EVH franky broken pickup

Post by jnewlyn » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:02 pm

Is that right? So his screw coil (which is the one closest to the bridge) is the hotter of the two. :toast: I knew it. I've talked about this before saying that in my two CC/59 hybrids (one will have an AlNiCo II and the other with the AlNiCo V right because you started with a CC and a 59) the one with the AlNiCo V (59 to start) will have the hotter (CC) coil to the neck. So I rotated it 180 degrees. Yep, definitely a difference. But, like I said, it's not as single coil like as the clip. I may revisit this with the spin a split route and experiment with it a little more. Right now though, I'm loving the DSD. :champ:
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