Drop Dead Legs question

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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by FL6 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:25 am

I also came up with both scenarios, with the bar and without, but remembered the V and thus scrapped the whammy bar approach. My first take was by slowing it down to super slow speeds with ASD and you don't hear the whammy in that. Fucking difficult to get it sound right though. I can bend strings fine in that area of the neck but once again it's those subtle nuance's that are hard to replicate. If I ever met Ed that's a riff I'd ask about it.

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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by beanoblues » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:11 am

Let me take a shot at tabbing what Garbeaj described

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--2----------------------------------
--3----------------------------------
--2-------------------0--------------
--0-------------------5--------------
-----0-3-3B-3 / 5---3-------------
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With that bend on the C note being a bend and release. That sounds pretty good. While I was messing around with that, I noticed I wanted to play it like this

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--2--------------------------------
--3---------------------------3---
--2---------------------------0---
--0--------------------------------
-----0-h-3-h-4B-p-3 / 5---3---
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I like something about that C to C#... but I want to listen to it slowed down...

EDIT: That "C" at the end is supposed to be the whole chord... couldn't get the tab to lineup right.

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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by garbeaj » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:36 am

I'll post a TAB as soon as I can...I think my description led to some confusion. I'll write out the whole main riff. I described how to play the "tricky" part that sounds like a whammy bar dip in my earlier post.

Do we not all agree that my clip sounds like the record?

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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by garbeaj » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:41 am

beanoblues wrote:Let me take a shot at tabbing what Garbeaj described

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--2----------------------------------
--3----------------------------------
--2-------------------0--------------
--0-------------------5--------------
-----0-3-3B-3 / 5---3-------------
-------------------------------------
With that bend on the C note being a bend and release. That sounds pretty good. While I was messing around with that, I noticed I wanted to play it like this

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--2--------------------------------
--3---------------------------3---
--2---------------------------0---
--0--------------------------------
-----0-h-3-h-4B-p-3 / 5---3---
-----------------------------------

I like something about that C to C#... but I want to listen to it slowed down...

EDIT: That "C" at the end is supposed to be the whole chord... couldn't get the tab to lineup right.
Remember that this song is in "Drop D" tuning...the first hammered notes occur on the low E string. Let me write out the whole thing and I think it will all click for you.

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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by FL6 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:12 am

garbeaj wrote:I'll post a TAB as soon as I can...I think my description led to some confusion. I'll write out the whole main riff. I described how to play the "tricky" part that sounds like a whammy bar dip in my earlier post.

Do we not all agree that my clip sounds like the record?
I think so. He has the eventide on that doesn't he?

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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by Leotis » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:59 pm

I've slowed it down with Transcribe and still hold to the way I way I tabbed it. There's something off about the last half of the lick in garbeaj's clip.

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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by garbeaj » Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:45 pm

Leotis wrote:I've slowed it down with Transcribe and still hold to the way I way I tabbed it. There's something off about the last half of the lick in garbeaj's clip.
Why don't you make a clip of how you have it written in your TAB and we can compare. I think every bit of my clip is correct to the recording and I don't think there is anything off...I guess the part you are referring to as "the last half" is the actual part of the lick that we are discussing (ie. the part that the official transcription and many players think was done with a Floyd Rose tremolo)...

One thing is for sure...The main guitar track was recorded with the Flying V and we can all agree that there is definitely no Floyd Rose tremolo on the main guitar track.
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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by garbeaj » Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:48 pm

FL6 wrote:
garbeaj wrote:I'll post a TAB as soon as I can...I think my description led to some confusion. I'll write out the whole main riff. I described how to play the "tricky" part that sounds like a whammy bar dip in my earlier post.

Do we not all agree that my clip sounds like the record?
I think so. He has the eventide on that doesn't he?
Absolutely...Eventide is on for the whole track. In my clip, I double tracked it by laying the same track on top but just slightly off time to create an ADT effect and then I added a slight chorus...this is a cheap way to approximate the Eventide effect.

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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by Leotis » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:17 pm

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I did some more listening to it last night, and I've revised my thinking to this...the D to C on the 5th string is a quick pulloff, bending the C up to D, then open D 4th string, then hammer on to the 5th fret D on the 5th string without picking and pulloff to C# then pulloff to the C power chord, but pick the power chord as you pull off to it.

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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by beanoblues » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:56 am

I spent some more time and finally slowed it down. And I like Garbeaj's original, but something about that last "D" also bothers me. I think this is how Garbeaj originally described?

--2-----------------------------------
--3-----------------------------------
--2-----------------------------------
--0------------0----------------------
------------------3-B-R-/-5----------
--------6-h-7-------------------------

I'm still hearing something like this

--2-----------------------------------
--3-----------------------------------
--2-----------------------------------
--0------------0----------------------
------------------3B-R-4B------------
--------6-h-7-------------------------

But at this point, my index finger is toast from doing that bend on the C, i'm hearing slides vs bends in my sleep, and i've just been playing this for the past 15 minutes (think intro to footloose) while I curse EVH

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----0----0----0---------0----------
--4B--4B---4B---4B-----------------
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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by Leotis » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:48 pm

I'll try to get a clip up tonight. That last D is in there as well as a clear descent to C# then to the C power chord. Maybe my fingering isn't correct, but those notes are there.

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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by garbeaj » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:11 pm

That "Footloose" lick is a harsh mistress!

Please try to post a clip of you playing what you post in your TAB...it is really the only way to have an intelligent and informed discussion about how we interpret a lick.

Also, please play the entire main riff-not just the one tricky part that sounds like a whammy, but isn't...you need to be able to play the entire riff in context (as I have in my clip) to truly judge whether it is right or not.

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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by Leotis » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:13 pm

Damn.... I tried Windoze Movie Maker forever and it would never save. Finally gave up and used Videopad and it worked the first try.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3W3gU7PMJs[/youtube]

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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by garbeaj » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:05 am

Leotis wrote:Damn.... I tried Windoze Movie Maker forever and it would never save. Finally gave up and used Videopad and it worked the first try.
I don't hear that C# actually being fingered. I think the C# tonality is heard during the course of bending and sliding from C to D as I do it in my clip. I've listened to the track and I just don't hear the C# being articulated with a definite pull-off as you have it.

I do like that Harmonizer type sound you got going there though! Much better than what I did in my clip...

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Re: Drop Dead Legs question

Post by Leotis » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:16 am

Believe it or not, that's the little light blue MXR Analog Chorus.

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