12-Series Build. UK Suppliers. Would 50w do the job?

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Re: 12-Series Build. UK Suppliers. Would 50w do the job?

Post by neikeel » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:58 am

bill bokey wrote:I have just bought a set of Classic Tone for a 50W, I'll let you know how they sound but so far I have been very impressed with their products and they are cheap !
How cheap?
I guess that at the moment we're both paying same import taxes? :wink:
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Re: 12-Series Build. UK Suppliers. Would 50w do the job?

Post by bill bokey » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:36 pm

Well, cheaper than the other options, at least !
Import taxes are a bit of a mystery here.... there's the usual 20% VAT but although it is printed 20% when you do the maths it's...26% ! :shock:
Anyway, the set cost me 310€ all included. That was with the multi B+ PT so there is a cheaper option.

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Re: 12-Series Build. UK Suppliers. Would 50w do the job?

Post by OdgeUK » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:33 am

Guys, I'm really puzzled. Here's another JMP with that 'over the edge' gain.



Allegedly this is just a Super Lead spec with 1-wire mod and PPIMV. So that's a 2203 effectively right? Yet I have a 2204 and it would never produce this much gain and 'fluidity'.
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Re: 12-Series Build. UK Suppliers. Would 50w do the job?

Post by bill bokey » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:54 am

A Super Lead with the one wire mod has a lot more gain than a 2203. The second triode in a 2203 is cold biased and unbypassed whereas the one wire mod has two hot biased and bypassed triodes ;)

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Re: 12-Series Build. UK Suppliers. Would 50w do the job?

Post by OdgeUK » Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:41 pm

bill bokey wrote:A Super Lead with the one wire mod has a lot more gain than a 2203. The second triode in a 2203 is cold biased and unbypassed whereas the one wire mod has two hot biased and bypassed triodes ;)
I see!
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Re: 12-Series Build. UK Suppliers. Would 50w do the job?

Post by neikeel » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:35 pm

But because the cascaded second stage is 820R with 250uF bypass on V1a there is a lot of uncontrolled (unfocussed gain that can be a bit mushy IMO) some people like it, YMMV. I find the RK 4k7 as low as I would go but experimentation with a particular amp is the way to go.
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