Star*Guitar wrote:After listening to Rockstah's clip with the mod...Anyone who says that mod doesn't do it, just isn't listening. Holy Crap..
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Star*Guitar wrote:After listening to Rockstah's clip with the mod...Anyone who says that mod doesn't do it, just isn't listening. Holy Crap..
Very interesting, I've never heard anyone get those harmonics to cut through like Ed did, especially one of those last few, the tap on the tenth fret of the A string. I may be way off, but I wonder what the frequency, or harmonic, of that note is.Good Guest wrote:....man that frequency also really makes them EVH harmonics jump out too like the tapping part on the mean street intro WORKS!![]()
hee hee!! SNAKES ALIVE!rockstah wrote:thanks Eric! its my stock 78 metaface, superlead specs.efraser68 wrote:Sounds good Mark. Is this your *stock* or cascaded amp? What exactly has been done to the MXR 6 band?
the mod: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... D=10034480 ( 6th post down)
Thanks for all the kind words and yeah I'm hard at it trying to learn ITO too...this is so much fun ... and The ears on rgalpin and rockstash are pretty damn remarkable...mightymike wrote:There's so many factors that make up EVH tones. Power tube and speaker break up are just 2 of them that are common to almost all his tones. ITO tone is unique, and different from other tones off the same album. I think to Ed it was probably a novelty, and he made a cool little tune out of it, and moved on. He may have used the pedal on other songs, but not the same way to my ears. He could have more than one pedal in the studio.
The spectrum analysis is awesome, but doesn't really measure feel. As unscientific as that may sound, I can hear the way that amp feels with my ears; having played ITO on some really well dialed in EVH style Plexis, but just missing that one little ingredient to put it over the top for exact ITO tone. To me this is a huge finding! The cool thing about the spectrum analysis, was that it was a tool that pointed out the 1.2kz spike to Good Guest who knew about Jose modding the pedals, and had the genius to say hey, "Let's try modding that band to emphasize that freq."
Whether or not EVH's pedal was modded exactly this way will never be proven. It would be interesting if people like LeadGuy took other pedals, or 1.2khz pre and and post eqing to see if they can replicate this in other ways. Like every other spec, you can only measure so much with meters, in the end it's the meter you were born with (your ears) that decide what you think is correct. In this case, hands down this is head an shoulders better than any ITO tone I have ever heard. I can't wait to hear what some of the other players drooling over this easy mod will sound like when they make their ITO clips.There's a few people here I can' wait to hear with this mod.
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I'm laughing because it is so frigin easy. It's like a Mcgyver episode.![]()
To Good Guest
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for thinking of this
To Mark
For taking it from an idea to a sound clip fast.
That whole run (tapping bit / w 10th fret ) seems to be one solid piece that re enforces each other...if you play it fast and deadly accurate the harmonic jumps out easier...which in my case is a lot easier said than done...but if you use the 1.25 khz with the 3.2 Khz it is a helluva lot easier.Krinkle wrote:Very interesting, I've never heard anyone get those harmonics to cut through like Ed did, especially one of those last few, the tap on the tenth fret of the A string. I may be way off, but I wonder what the frequency, or harmonic, of that note is.Good Guest wrote:....man that frequency also really makes them EVH harmonics jump out too like the tapping part on the mean street intro WORKS!![]()
As for ITO, I don't care if this is how Ed did it, I just want to get that tone any way I can get it! Time to dig out the XR and look for a cap.
Anyone find this?dazzlindino wrote: also I tested my stock mxr 6 band blue box vintage mxr against a brand new stock black box 6 band...and they have the same tone! could not tell which box was which, however the new black bx has all those itty bitty little tiny parts...so it may not be modable...but stock for stock...wow just the same...
Hey Cary. We've talked about this a few times in the last couple of years. They sound the same. I don't know about the guts of the new one compared to the originals and how that would affect modding, but sound-wise, a new one is just as good. Good luck.cary chilton wrote:Anyone find this?dazzlindino wrote: also I tested my stock mxr 6 band blue box vintage mxr against a brand new stock black box 6 band...and they have the same tone! could not tell which box was which, however the new black bx has all those itty bitty little tiny parts...so it may not be modable...but stock for stock...wow just the same...
Are you talking about the RWTD clips celestian /JBL or is there another ITO ?cary chilton wrote:Good Guest, could you spectrum analyze Dave Friedman's clip of Ed's studio raw mono track ? I am curious if it is similar pre-production or not.
I have a 77 and a 76 blue (square script) mxr 6-band. Since the 76 square script sounded better I decided to sacrifice the 77. It got a little messy trying to leverage out the slider from it's three solder pads. -started with the single pad in the center of the board, it did not seem to ruin the slider when I pulled it back from the board. It's the two pads that are close together that are difficult to dislodge. I'm amazed I did not ruin this thing. Ok, this IS big! Lets delete this thread from the forum before mxr (or evh) catches wind of it. This should be Good Guest's cash cow, he deserves it! It's the "BlueCockWah" mod!vanhalen5150 wrote:Looked at my 6 band last night. You have to desolder the slider to remove the current cap. A bit of surgery for sure.
That was my observation of 3 blue's (76 and two 77's) I had at one time... NOT ALL mxr's sound the same.Strat78 wrote: I have a 77 and a 76 blue (square script) mxr 6-band. Since the 76 square script sounded better I decided to sacrifice the 77.