Creem Magazine Album Review for Diver Down 1982
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Creem Magazine Album Review for Diver Down 1982
When I was in high school I couldn’t understand why most (non-guitarist) people couldn’t see the apex of genius in Fair Warning. It wasn’t that they disliked it, but they didn’t give it the creedence that in my opinion it deserved, and then they went nuts over Diver Down, which was very disappointing to me.
It must have been the MTV connection that helped it or something, but in my August 1982 issue of Creem Magazine I read an album review for Diver Down which summed up my feelings exactly. Sadly, today I would LOVE to get a album from VH (with DLR), period. So slip back in time 29 years and read the review and enjoy…
Album review for Diver Down August 1982 issue of Creem Magazine:
“Not only is this album an insult to the average consumer who will have to pay upwards of ten dollars for it, it is an exceptionally vicious kick in the teeth to Van Halen fans everywhere; fans who – by buying their albums, attending their concerts, and wearing their merchandise – have made David Lee Roth, Alex Van Halen, Eddie Van Halen and Michael Anthony millionaires. And because I paid hard-earned money for my copy of Diver Down, I have a personal stake in the matter: I have been burned by Van Halen, and I don’t like it.
From start to finish, this album lasts less than half an hour – and if you don’t believe me, you can count up the label times and arrive at the shameful figure of 29:07 yourself. This is a disgrace. In an era where the technology exists to make it feasible for someone like Todd Rundgren to release a single album of original material which lasts over an hour (Initiation: 68:11), there is absolutely no excuse for this kind of showing. None.
And although there are twelve tracks on Diver Down, five of them are cover versions (one lasting a mere 1:39) and three of them are guitar instrumentals (none of which is long enough to synchronize a watch by), leaving but four original songs by the band.
Of the covers, the above-noted 1:39 version of ‘Happy Trails’ is the kind of self-indulgent filler that only reinforces my anger at Van Halen for taking advantage of their audience – and if you think that they would’ve gotten away with something like this on their first album, think again. And a note to historians who would like to point out ‘Mother’s Lament’ on Disraeli Gears: Don’t bother, it ain’t 1967 anymore.
‘Dancing in the Streets,’ ‘Where Have All the Good Times Gone!’ and ‘Pretty Woman’ are so close to the original versions as to be superfluous carbon copies. Unlike their reworking of ‘You Really Got Me,’ which exuded sonic flash and style, these three remakes are there…and nothing more.
‘Big Bad Bill (Is Sweet William Now)’ is the kind of campy period piece that people like to crucify Freddie Mercury for, but when Freddie has written original material in a similar vein (‘Seaside Rendezvous,’ ‘Dreamer’s Ball’), the results have been at least tasteful, with none of the cheap vulgarities encountered here (to say that it’s no ‘Take Your Whiskey Home’ is an understatement).
Instrumental-wise, we’re talking filler again. ‘Intruder’ is a pale, pale imitation of the more successful ‘Sunday Afternoon in the Park’ and the pyrotechnics which made Eddie the Creem guitarist of the year in 1981 are nowhere in sight (or sound).
As for the originals, all four songs are lame, banal exercises that don’t even rock ‘n’ roll all that much, except for” Hang ‘Em High,” which is the closest thing to “classic” Van Halen on this album in terms of sheer train-out-of–control, collision-course rock ‘n’ roll.
Everything you loved on Women and Children First and Fair Warning are missing from Diver Down: the cheap asides from Roth, the glorious stereo guitar sonics, the well-crafted lyrics (yeah, well, compared to Diver Down, anything – including an air-raid siren – would have well-crafted lyrics) and, especially, the solid hooks which permeated almost every track.
Just when Van Halen needed to come back with a killer album to cement their status in the marketplace as the current rock ‘n’ roll kings, they had to go and pull a stunt like this. Diver Down is as bad a career move as I’ve ever seen – so much so that if these guys are featured in this magazine in two year’s time, I’ll be surprised. And don’t laugh: if it happened to Aerosmith, it could happen to these bozos, too.” Bruce Malamut
It must have been the MTV connection that helped it or something, but in my August 1982 issue of Creem Magazine I read an album review for Diver Down which summed up my feelings exactly. Sadly, today I would LOVE to get a album from VH (with DLR), period. So slip back in time 29 years and read the review and enjoy…
Album review for Diver Down August 1982 issue of Creem Magazine:
“Not only is this album an insult to the average consumer who will have to pay upwards of ten dollars for it, it is an exceptionally vicious kick in the teeth to Van Halen fans everywhere; fans who – by buying their albums, attending their concerts, and wearing their merchandise – have made David Lee Roth, Alex Van Halen, Eddie Van Halen and Michael Anthony millionaires. And because I paid hard-earned money for my copy of Diver Down, I have a personal stake in the matter: I have been burned by Van Halen, and I don’t like it.
From start to finish, this album lasts less than half an hour – and if you don’t believe me, you can count up the label times and arrive at the shameful figure of 29:07 yourself. This is a disgrace. In an era where the technology exists to make it feasible for someone like Todd Rundgren to release a single album of original material which lasts over an hour (Initiation: 68:11), there is absolutely no excuse for this kind of showing. None.
And although there are twelve tracks on Diver Down, five of them are cover versions (one lasting a mere 1:39) and three of them are guitar instrumentals (none of which is long enough to synchronize a watch by), leaving but four original songs by the band.
Of the covers, the above-noted 1:39 version of ‘Happy Trails’ is the kind of self-indulgent filler that only reinforces my anger at Van Halen for taking advantage of their audience – and if you think that they would’ve gotten away with something like this on their first album, think again. And a note to historians who would like to point out ‘Mother’s Lament’ on Disraeli Gears: Don’t bother, it ain’t 1967 anymore.
‘Dancing in the Streets,’ ‘Where Have All the Good Times Gone!’ and ‘Pretty Woman’ are so close to the original versions as to be superfluous carbon copies. Unlike their reworking of ‘You Really Got Me,’ which exuded sonic flash and style, these three remakes are there…and nothing more.
‘Big Bad Bill (Is Sweet William Now)’ is the kind of campy period piece that people like to crucify Freddie Mercury for, but when Freddie has written original material in a similar vein (‘Seaside Rendezvous,’ ‘Dreamer’s Ball’), the results have been at least tasteful, with none of the cheap vulgarities encountered here (to say that it’s no ‘Take Your Whiskey Home’ is an understatement).
Instrumental-wise, we’re talking filler again. ‘Intruder’ is a pale, pale imitation of the more successful ‘Sunday Afternoon in the Park’ and the pyrotechnics which made Eddie the Creem guitarist of the year in 1981 are nowhere in sight (or sound).
As for the originals, all four songs are lame, banal exercises that don’t even rock ‘n’ roll all that much, except for” Hang ‘Em High,” which is the closest thing to “classic” Van Halen on this album in terms of sheer train-out-of–control, collision-course rock ‘n’ roll.
Everything you loved on Women and Children First and Fair Warning are missing from Diver Down: the cheap asides from Roth, the glorious stereo guitar sonics, the well-crafted lyrics (yeah, well, compared to Diver Down, anything – including an air-raid siren – would have well-crafted lyrics) and, especially, the solid hooks which permeated almost every track.
Just when Van Halen needed to come back with a killer album to cement their status in the marketplace as the current rock ‘n’ roll kings, they had to go and pull a stunt like this. Diver Down is as bad a career move as I’ve ever seen – so much so that if these guys are featured in this magazine in two year’s time, I’ll be surprised. And don’t laugh: if it happened to Aerosmith, it could happen to these bozos, too.” Bruce Malamut
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I have to say, I agree mostly, it's easily my least fav VH album
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Ouch! No way! The only criticism I could side with is the length. I have never heard an explanation for why they didn't at least dump another couple old standbys on the record. But holy crap, full bug, cathedral, little guitars, secrets? Classic! Dancing, meh ok bad call dlr. Hang em High is a stand alone masterpiece.
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I agree Hang em High and Full bug are awesome songs. Little Guitars and Cathedral are great guitarwork too but I was talking mostly about the songs, Ed's instrumentals are always great no matter what album they're on.
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I have actually grown to love some of the eighties stuff I used to hate, but was just relating how I felt at the time, especially after being spoiled with the first four albums.
Ed talked about the internal stresses of the band present during the making of Fair Warning (he was thinking about quitting the band) and then Warner Bros "forced" another LP out of them too soon, so he told them "there it is, that's all I got for you".
In short, that period signalled the beginning of the end for the "old" Mighty Van Halen that I had come to love. To me, Malamut's point's were well-taken but I find it especially funny to see that after his Aerosmith comment, they actually made it back to superstar status despite their issues. So there's still hope... Not Obama hope- VAN HALEN hope!!!
Ed talked about the internal stresses of the band present during the making of Fair Warning (he was thinking about quitting the band) and then Warner Bros "forced" another LP out of them too soon, so he told them "there it is, that's all I got for you".
In short, that period signalled the beginning of the end for the "old" Mighty Van Halen that I had come to love. To me, Malamut's point's were well-taken but I find it especially funny to see that after his Aerosmith comment, they actually made it back to superstar status despite their issues. So there's still hope... Not Obama hope- VAN HALEN hope!!!
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Actually I remember in the interviews Eddie was very frustrated with Warner for forcing them back into the studio when it had been settled they would take a break. Considering the explosion of writing on 1984, it's no wonder Eddie was pissed about DD too.
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It was so bland because it was the end. Those songs were probably left overs from previous albums. Hell the first 4 albums were basically in the can when they recorded VH1. Nothing last forever and if it did it would get boring.
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I like how the reviewer, in 1982, is already lamenting the long lost days of "classic" Van Halen.
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So was I, and it's been a LONG 30 years...
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They were aying Hang 'em High before VH1.
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That's why the reviewer said:by rgorke » Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:42 pm
They were playing Hang 'em High before VH1.
As for the originals, all four songs are lame, banal exercises that don’t even rock ‘n’ roll all that much, except for” Hang ‘Em High,” which is the closest thing to “classic” Van Halen on this album in terms of sheer train-out-of–control, collision-course rock ‘n’ roll.
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*OPINION THREAD ALERT* Even with all the issues I'm of the opinion that it wasn't "over" with 1984 still to come. I have to admit a sentiment for DD because I was in 8th grade when it hit and it was the first release I was waiting for after becoming a fan. To me at the time, greatest album ever recorded.
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Well which one did it the best for you, "Happy Trails" or "Big Bad Bill Is Sweet William Now?" Jeez...Even with all the issues I'm of the opinion that it wasn't "over" with 1984 still to come. I have to admit a sentiment for DD because I was in 8th grade when it hit and it was the first release I was waiting after becoming a fan. To me at the time, greatest album ever recorded.
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Dude, immortalizing Jan = priceless. I was saying I was just a kid when it came out. I know the difference now but that still doesn't discount what brilliance there is on that record. For example, how can that reviewer not say Full Bug is an instant classic along with Hang 'em High? Smokin' Eddie boogie, ripping solo, classic DLR. Pure DLR vh all the way. I get a little defensive of DD which is goofy considering the man himself sides with you lol.
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Sorry to be the grinch on Christmas. I agree, even after Fair Warning there were (2) cuts per LP of what one might call "classic- style VH" and "The Full Bug" was my other consideration of the two as well. I'll confess I even love "Secrets" and "Little Guitars" too today when I hear them. I guess I was just all set for "Fair Warning, Pt. 2" when DD came out...
When I heard DD I was like:
My (2) cuts on 1984 were "Panama" and "Hot For Teacher," but today I really love the playing on "Girl Gone Bad"
5150? Very different sound, but I liked the playing on "5150" and bits & peices of riffs in other tracks here and there;
OU812? "AFU"
Strangely, I loved the entire "For Unlawful" album from beginning to end . It just sounded good. But none of that stuff was "Classic Van Halen" in the biblical sense...
When I heard DD I was like:
My (2) cuts on 1984 were "Panama" and "Hot For Teacher," but today I really love the playing on "Girl Gone Bad"
5150? Very different sound, but I liked the playing on "5150" and bits & peices of riffs in other tracks here and there;
OU812? "AFU"
Strangely, I loved the entire "For Unlawful" album from beginning to end . It just sounded good. But none of that stuff was "Classic Van Halen" in the biblical sense...