S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by RagnarMarGunn » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:45 pm

dukeamps wrote:I think the right speakers were Celestion G12M25w, here is 2 clips with new 25w greenbacks, not broke in yet.

First clip has Nos Chinese preamps + old EL34s, NT + SCOM at the end of the clip,

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13247498

Second clip has JJ preamp + Fender 6L6s, NT + SCOM at the end of the clip,

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13247494


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Hasn't anyone of you tried a mix of Greenback and Classic Lead 80. I have 2 amps and 2 cabinets, one 4X12 with 3 old Greenback and one Vintage 30 and then a 2X12 with Classic Lead 80. My AFD mod is in Metroamp 50W Kit and I use both power amps, the other amp is a Metroamp 100 MV kit converted to Friedman BE-100 specs. Sounds convincing.
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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by BRMSlash » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:13 pm

Any one tried an Electro-Voice EVM12L with their amp? Supposedly Izzy used them in half of his cab, so possibly Slash might have used it for certain tracks or takes?

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by stoof » Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:34 am

snakepit86 wrote:duke well done, i like most the guitar track alone


Just for who may wants it i just edited the AFD to a double mono slash side for a clear compare to the recordings :rock:

http://www.megafileupload.com/md6R/1987 ... e_Mono.rar
Hey dude. Do you think you could do the same with Izzy's guitars ? :hairband: :whistle: :)

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by bennyx » Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:38 am

The right way for make shield trick without cable is 33k+33pf from grid to anode pin..

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by dukeamps » Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:25 pm

New clip G12M25w, only had the MV at 1.

AFD mix

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13249698


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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by snakepit86 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:54 pm

stoof wrote:
snakepit86 wrote:duke well done, i like most the guitar track alone


Just for who may wants it i just edited the AFD to a double mono slash side for a clear compare to the recordings :rock:

http://www.megafileupload.com/md6R/1987 ... e_Mono.rar
Hey dude. Do you think you could do the same with Izzy's guitars ? :hairband: :whistle: :)

yeah, izzys are GREAT

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by pjoliver182 » Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:56 am

I like my 80's g12-65s ☺

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by budubum92 » Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:10 am

pjoliver182 wrote:I like my 80's g12-65s ☺
They are great huh? 65s lets you play the treble more and add more bright harmonics.

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by pjoliver182 » Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:03 pm

They're just a great 80's speaker. AC/DC recorded Back in Black with them too :rock: also with a late 70's Marshall...hmm!

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by bennyx » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:42 am

Other advice: the real 34 is set with very low bias....

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by bennyx » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:40 am

Shield trick: the single cap don't work like the cable.....add a little resistor in series.....so 33k it's a most probably value

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by ijancec » Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:41 am

150k on wiper, this is just like 'secret life of pots' and full-drive 2 with star and alien head :)))) yeah, you must keep it in dark places..what do you think? i have that pedal and it is different, pots are custom made, closure and so on. once you find the sweet spot you feel just like an alien. same here, learn how to use and customize pots in first place. learn how to read schematics (aspen pittman's acrobat) and learn tube equatations..yeah sweet mine and cups and dialectric material. thats for now, will post some samples of my current project. only 3 preamp tubes. thats enough even for #36 in my opinion. farewell

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by bennyx » Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:15 pm

i'm back on shield trick cable.......

470pf mixer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z6Pa3a7hpk

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by bennyx » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:34 pm

ijancec wrote:150k on wiper, this is just like 'secret life of pots' and full-drive 2 with star and alien head :)))) yeah, you must keep it in dark places..what do you think? i have that pedal and it is different, pots are custom made, closure and so on. once you find the sweet spot you feel just like an alien. same here, learn how to use and customize pots in first place. learn how to read schematics (aspen pittman's acrobat) and learn tube equatations..yeah sweet mine and cups and dialectric material. thats for now, will post some samples of my current project. only 3 preamp tubes. thats enough even for #36 in my opinion. farewell
The 3 tubes version of 36 is 34. ..if you want increase the 34 gain with 3 tubes change the anode resistor of second stages with 150k....rest is time lost

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by pjoliver182 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:56 pm

"The 3 tubes version of 36 is 34. .."

This is why you're still not satisfied with your #36 tone Benny. ..

#34 #36 and #39 are all different experiments in trying to achieve a super plexi tone at lower volumes...mainly because the 2203 amps failed in that respect.

Let go of #34 and look at Franks preferred way of modding Marshall's in the 80's and you will find better #36 accuracy.

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