Great Topic Here

flemingmras · Post by **flemingmras** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:20 pm

Here's a great topic on the Plexi Palace forum regarding the idiots that work at GC. Check it out!

Jon

http://vintageamps.com/PlexiPalaceUBBcg ... 1;t=010559

5150loveeddie · Post by **5150loveeddie** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:04 pm

Its exaclty just the same here, music stores (most of them...) don't even know how to convert an 6L6 tube amp to el34s, they went and say to me its impossible to do it, its a 6L6 amp gna gna gna.....

........

But hey now that I have YOU I don't need the music stores anymore (well to buy picks, string, and stuff maybe...)

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:47 pm

Oh I love those stores to death. Where else can you go in retail where you get tinitis just by walking in the store. I especially love it when you want to check out the single tube amp in the store and when you try to turn it up past countless kids trying to play Enter Sandman for their obviously bored girlfriends the salesman approaches you at warp 9 to tell you to turn it down. We do have one superstore music shop here called Hermes. They don't bug you at all unless you are a tejano(mexican polka) musician(seems that all those musicians round these parts are loaded) and they let you turn the amps up.
My band one time decided to all go in one day for a joke to see how long it would be before they shut us down. I went and picked up a guitar and plugged into a SLP halfstack our bassist went and plugged into something drummer did the same and our vocalist went and was tryng out a mic. We cranked up and played The Immigrant Song. A couple salesmen figured out what we were doing by the second verse. They didn't ask us to stop either but afterwards asked us if we wanted to do some more songs on the stage setup they have there. We declined on that offer though since the joke was no longer an inside one.

Country Boy Shane · Post by **Country Boy Shane** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:07 pm

Stories like this make me proud that i left the idiots over at Guitar Center.

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:49 pm

Country Boy Shane wrote:Stories like this make me proud that i left the idiots over at Guitar Center.

But see they actually need people like you to change how the salesfloor is run over there. But Im probably just wishful thinking

Country Boy Shane · Post by **Country Boy Shane** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:58 pm

Well they didn't like the idea that i knew great tone and that i wouldn't ever sell Rectifiers or junko guitars. I think i'd do better at the ole mom and pop music store where the owners actually care more about customers than the money.

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:11 am

Unfortunately even the mom-and-pop stores would like you to sell the lineup of gear they stock. If that means Crate amps, then by God you better tell everyone Crate amps are the second Resurrection of Jesus.

flemingmras · Post by **flemingmras** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:08 am

Flames1950 wrote:If that means Crate amps, then by God you better tell everyone Crate amps are the second Resurrection of Jesus.

dad99_2000 · Post by **dad99_2000** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 8:38 pm

this is where I go its right down the street and is pretty famous tons of people have been thier sig photos of them Ozzy Aerosmith Brian May the list goes on. they have tons.

http://home.rochester.rr.com/rrours/

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:26 am

I was one of the people posting in that thread. My point was although I have a deep hatred for that world of flashy, instant gratification products that GC and SA and Mars are all about, I really dont care if people waste all their money on that stuff. If they have the aptitude theyll learn about getting a good sound and if they dont theyll sound like a$$. Doesnt hurt me any. Hell if you wanna believe these guys that Mesas are the holy grail of tubes, go ahead.

The thing that pisses me off is that these guys get so overinflated from working there. That story in my last post is a good example. Here's an older guy working there who seems to have been on the scene for a long time. What does he say when I ask him for a 6V6 for my Champ with an unreal amount of arrogance......"you have to get a matched pair...they sound better and no amp uses one power tube." They sound better? I wonder what he thinks he means by that. Apparently he wasnt familiar with a Champ other then by name when I repeated it to him. Sorry. This guy is too retarded to be working in a music store infecting young players with his ignorance. Salespeople are supposed to have knowledge. So they say. A freakin matched pair of 6V6s huh. I should have asked him how one would go about adjusthing the bias in a cathode biased amp and watch his head explode. Of coarse all I expect him to know is that there exists amps that use 1 6V6, or better yet, shut up, curb the arrogance and go get the damn tube

Sorry for all the itallics.

Post by **VelvetGeorge** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:57 pm

Geez, what a chump! It makes you want to break down that guys arrogance. Don't you wish you would have had your Champ with you?
I'd love to see him trying to find a socket for the "other" 6V6.

I've been guilty of walking into stores, where they don't know me, and letting some overbearing jerk show me all kinds of crap. Then handing him my card on my way out.

The problem seems to be that these types of ignorant, would be know it all salespeople (and I use that term lightly) are all too common. Like the GC's and MM's are training them to be that way. And if that's the case, I take offense as a consumer.
Those tactics might work on used cars and computers for people who have no idea what they want. But you can bet your ass that when we shop for musical gear, we know what we want.

George

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:24 pm

VelvetGeorge wrote:Geez, what a chump! It makes you want to break down that guys arrogance. Don't you wish you would have had your Champ with you?
I'd love to see him trying to find a socket for the "other" 6V6.

George

I can picture that situation well. I put the Champ on the table and whip out the 2 tubes. I stick one in and in my best mock Lenny impression take the other one and go "which way does it go? which way does it go!" and start ramming it all over the chassis in a humiliatingly sarcastic way.

That was a situation rank with stupidity (I had a freind there watching and we enjoyed a good laugh) but thats not the worst Ive had at a GC/SA by far. The reason it sticks out so much in my mind to post it is the guys attitude. You truly had to be there to appreciate it. If he had a fur around his neck and his nose 10 feet in the air he couldnt sound any more arrogant.

There was alot more exchange then that but that was the funniest thing he said. He tried to convince me that Mesa was the best to go with. I actually did bring him down a notch about the champ just by saying the circuit name and that I built it myself but its no point arguing with these guys about why I dont want a Mesa tube.

Its just amazing to me. Anyone in Philly can relate. I have 3 Guitar Centers and 3 Sam Ash stores all within 25 minutes of me. A year or 2 ago there was a huge Mars as well but that closed.
Theres Sam Ash King Of Prussia
Sam Ash Cherry Hill
Sam Ash Franklin Mills
GC Cherry Hill (literally 20 yards from Sam Ash Cherry Hill)
GC Plymouth Meeting
GC Oxford Valley
then there was Mars Cherry hill (5 minutes from SA & GC Cherry Hill)
So at one point were talking 7 big chain music stores in the Philly area. Hmm. With the 3 in Cherry Hill when you were in one it was taboo to mention the other 2 stores.