Good pickups for Les Paul???

flemingmras · Post by **flemingmras** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:17 am

I prefer EMGs myself. The Zakk Wylde set exclusively. However I run the 85 in the bridge and the 81 in the neck whereas he does it the other way around. The 85 has more of the PAF sound than the two.

And believe it or not, on a straight cranked Metro Plexi, my Les Pauls still sound like Les Pauls, just a lot hotter.

Check out this sound clip and decide for yourself.

Amp: Bone Stock Metro Plexi('69 SL Clone spec)
Cab: 1973 Marshall Straight Cab w/the original Celestion G12H-30 Greenbacks

Amp fully dimed with Bass and Volume II set at 12:00, guitar straight in.

http://www.wildercyde.com/soundclips/blackdog.mp3

Jon

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:25 am

Zoso wrote:Yeah, it's the double cream that Dimarzio has the rights to, which is bullshit since Gibsons had them in their guitars long before Dimarzio was even conceived. But maybe it has expired now, cause the new Jimmy Page signature LP has a double creme in it (just like his original GIBSON, imagine that). But who knows, maybe they had to pay some fee to Dimarzio for using it. I just think it is friggin' insane that you can trademark a color combination of pickup bobbins. I'm just glad no other makers are that big of a prick or I guess we'd be very limited in our color selection.

The set I ordered from Jeff are double cream. Theyre on their way!

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:52 am

Interesting, the pick ups Duncan wound and put in Beck's TeleGib has a double cream neck PU and the original BC Rich's had double creams in both positions, same as the current versions.

rjgtr · Post by **rjgtr** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:51 am

The original BC Riches had Dimarzios. Incidently, so did the original Hamers.

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:46 pm

rjgtr wrote:The original BC Riches had Dimarzios.

DOH! Now that makes sense!

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:24 pm

Yeah, it's the double cream that Dimarzio has the rights to, which is bullshit since Gibsons had them in their guitars long before Dimarzio was even conceived.

If I'm not mistaken, DiMarzio also had the balls to trademark the "PAF" nickname, which clearly should have been Gibson territory. With slaps in the face like that it's no wonder Gibson has resorted to suing PRS and such in their spare time......

flemingmras · Post by **flemingmras** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:34 am

Yeah well, that's just like Randall Smith patenting a hod rodded Fender Princeton circuit for Mesa Boogers.

Jon

rjgtr · Post by **rjgtr** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:04 pm

Well, didn't Randall just cram a hot rodded 1 channel Concert into a Princeton chassis?

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:03 pm

I thought the very first mod he ever did was to add an extra gain stage to princetons along with a master. From there he just tried to patent everything possible whther he had anything to do with developing it or not. Like channel switching. It migght be a joke but didnt he try to patent switching between 2 values in an amp amnd also the standby switch?

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:03 am

It's too bad that Dimarzios don't have a propreitory color. That way we could identify it as a Dimarzio before wasting our time and picking up the guitar.

dirtydeeds22 · Post by **dirtydeeds22** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:12 pm

I concur with rjgtr, the wcr's are the best sounding pups I've ever used. I got the darkburst set. Not as hot as the Fillmore set. Awesome pickup, but PRICEY!!!!!

Jeff

rjgtr · Post by **rjgtr** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:45 am

RE: MESA I thought the mod was to replace the power and output transformers with 50 watt units and rewire the tremolo circuit as another set of gain stages.

I still think it is ironic that he is patenting everythign in sight when his best seller, the Dual/Trip Recifier series, is clearly ripped off from Soldano.

WCR - the price is higher than normal stuff, but is in line with Antiquities and other "hand made" pickups. And isn't the tone worth it?

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:26 pm

I can't say enough good things about my seymour duncan seth lovers. If you are going for the vibe of the original PAF pickups I think these are the ticket. The only difference between these pu's and the antiquity PAF is that the antiquities are aged and wound by seymour duncan himself. They have a lot of clarity and are very warm sounding. I love them. If your not going for the vintage vibe or are going for a higher gain type of tone they probably aren't for you though. Those High Order pickups definitely look killer.

white room · Post by **white room** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:10 pm

I put a set of the WCR Crossroads PU's in my LP Special a few months back and I love them. Before that I was using the SD Seth Lover in the bridge which sounded very good but a little too bright on the thinner strings for my taste. The Crossroads sound a bit more balanced across the spectrum with just the right amount of high/mid mix and they are a touch darker. To me, they sound like a blend of the Dimarzio PAF and the Seth Lover. Very PAFish for sure.

In all honesty, the Seth runs a very close 2nd IMO and I would say give those a try before forking out the beans for the WCR's and see what you think. I'm thinking that my LP Special ( there's nothing "Special" about it IMO) is just a bright sounding guitar.

Chad