MXR 10 band Graphic

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Tue May 10, 2005 9:06 pm

I am borrowing one of these guys tonight from a Friends store. It is one of the old Blue bock lettered boxes with the hard wired AC cable(grounded). I like this MXR. It is very very quiet, even when I peg out all of the sliders. I used to like the 6 band version the best though it is like a wind tunnel with no way to turn it off. My MXR 31 band is... a 31 band, a little overkill for a guitar rig.
Dax, in your eq thread I mentioned about lifting the ground off your eq if you are running it in front of the amp. Well for some reason this box does not need that to happen as I am not getting a ground loop like I do on the 31 band.
Running it behind a Distortion + set up similar to a clean boost and pulling the mids almost out on the eq(while leaving the amps mids dimed) I am perfectly in 80's metal land. bumping the mids up just under halfway Im close to 70's Priest.

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Tue May 10, 2005 9:11 pm

Boost the high mids and cut the rest of the bands pretty sharply for a Boston tone

I love to mess around with that with an EQ boost. I think Im gonna pick up an MXR 10 band soon.

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Tue May 10, 2005 9:15 pm

Yeah Dan this doesnt seem like a bad buy at $60 either, I remember really wanting one back in the late 80's and they were well over the $150 mark. Never paid attention to them til I saw this one and visions of Randy filled my head.

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Tue May 10, 2005 9:32 pm

Did Randy really use a MXR+? I just hate that pedal so much and its hard to believe that fuzzy middy sound came just from the +. I kind of do believe there had to be a graphic before the amp.

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Tue May 10, 2005 9:49 pm

Yeah he ran his guitar into a MXR Dist+ then into the 10 band. Here is alink for his gear setup.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kari.tammilehto/rreq.htm

Here is another on roughly how the guy that made the site got Randy's "Tribute" album tone using a SB.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/kari.tammilehto/rrtone.htm

I think a lot had to do with the Altec speakers in his cabinets.

I agree with you to an extent on the MXR+ though it can be a very nasty sounding pedal. Seems to be pretty cool using the eq after it though.

myker · Post by **myker** » Wed May 11, 2005 12:32 pm

now i want one...
what about using them between the pre, and the power amp, or however mesa and vht use them?
mike

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Wed May 11, 2005 2:54 pm

I think it would sound awesome. My first Marshall was one of those MOSFET 100's. I used the 6 band MXR eq in the effects loop. Was like night and day in regards how the amp performed. Without the eq there the amp was mediocre at best. Once I had the eq in the loop the bottom end was extremely heavy and tight, think serious thump. the mids got tons more pronounced and the highs would either be earpiercingly shrill or a nice shimmer to make the mids and lows sparkle just right. Granted I was playing 80's metal and thrash at the time but this amp was perfect for that, set up with the eq in the loop.

I think it would be even more pronouced and cool in a tube amp.

Oh I did try one more thing regarding the Dist+ and the EQ last night. I did some more with/without testing and the dist+ is a fairly mean clean boost. Adds more raunch than a TS or SD-1(no kidding right?). But if you use the D+ as a dist box it sucks dogshit, even with the eq. I set the D+ with volume almost dimed(about 1/8" backed off from dimed) and then dialed the dist from 10:30-2:00. I think somewhere between 11:30 and 12:30 works best on my rig. too less and i might as well not use it as it does nothing, too much and it gets over compressed fast. The eq curve I was using was a smile with the mid faders a tad above midway. From that I dialed the 4k up almost to max, the two most right sliders shifting down from that and then bumped up the 125 and 250 about the mirrored opposite formt he two highest freq.. I flat lined the two lowest sliders as i heard no added effect whether they were in the curve or not. I did get some sort of wierd bass presence through the speakers though that sounded a tad muddy maxing those two out, but it was not a serious tonal shift more like a perception thing.
Using this curve I was able to get something that approximated a Kill 'Em All type Marshall gain, though sitting at a lower mid q since I am using old 65 watt celestions, which have a more bass pronouced voicing.

Trem Abuser · Post by **Trem Abuser** » Wed May 11, 2005 2:56 pm

Do you guys consider the MXR 10 band significantly "better" than the GE-7 (or does it just have 3 more sliders)? I have a GE-7 and I purchased the Sniper mod kit from Tonejam.com to see if I can reduce some of the noise it adds to my signal. But I've heard tales that 2 EQs is the way to go, with one right after the distortion pedal and the other at the end of the chain to rehabilitate the signal after the parasitic loss of each pedal in the chain...

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Wed May 11, 2005 7:27 pm

TRem abuser, I don't own a GE-7 to compare it to. I have a GE-7B that is slightly noisy. I am thinking that the GE-7 is similar. The one GE-7 that I checked out was silent compared to the MXR 6 band pedal. Even when pegged out it was quieter than my 6 band. Saying that, the 10 band has 3 more bands. 31.2, either 62.5 or 82.5(paint rubbed off on first #), 125, 250, 500, 1k, 2k, 4k, 8k, 16k, no level adjustment. Noise level on this is fairly non-existant. Like I said earlier it is as quiet as my MXR 31 band when that is flat lined for level output. If I push the overall level output on the rack unit its as loud as the 6 band.

Ok I bought this today. Just couldn't let it go. I'm one of those cats that just has to have the gear all my guitar heros used when I was really into them whether I end up using it or not. I will be using this one.

I just cracked the case on this one. Complete original. I was the first to open it. It has all that nasty assed dark gray foam that MXR used that had no other indentions in it except for the lego caps(mewonders why they sound good in MXR pedals and not Marshalls

) Of course it is all dry rotted as touching it put a finger indention in it. Need to find where to get something similar to replace it. The board is screwed into the box with 4 screws. The AC cable is hardwired to the baord with two metallic blue caps surrounding it that are the size of AA batteries. I didn't want to start messing with it so I put it all back together. I had the dont fuck with it dude, it works good, leave it alone til it starts fucking up thought process going on.

Once I get some of that foam for the inside of the case back plate, I will go through it and try and draw up a schematic for anyone who is interested. I'm one of those people who don't prescribe to the diystompboxes.com thought that once you get an old pedal take it apart and replace all the old parts with new to breathe new live into an old pedal. that is something to do once the pedal starts malfunctioning. There is old magick in old gear that should not be messed with unless something is malfunctioning.

Trem Abuser · Post by **Trem Abuser** » Mon May 16, 2005 2:36 am

Yes, I've found the GE-7 to be slightly noisy. The Sniper kit replaces the ICs, which are Sharp chips IR9022 - 758B, with different chips. I'm hoping that allows the pedal to be used as a boost. Now, I actually have the level knob at less than half.

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Mon May 16, 2005 10:23 pm

Well using the EQ as a boost would work. At the same time you will be adding the noise of the pedal to your signal. I guess there is a trade off somewhere. Right now I think that I will be going back to the SD-1 as my boost/od though. It seems to be tons smoother than the D+ and with the amount of drive Im using from both they are pretty much giving me the same grit, the SD-1 just give a nicer sustain.
I am running into a noise off the pedal though, whether or not I have a guitar in front of the pedal or not. I am getting that WOOOOOOOOO tone when I try to bump the drive up past 9:00. I guess I need to pick up some sort of HUSH unit. Im thinking either the HUSH II rack unit or the Super C. I just want to kill the harmonic WOOOOOOO and not the level of the signal.

gnugear · Post by **gnugear** » Tue May 17, 2005 12:26 am

I don't think the GE7 has the 800khz slider like the MXR units. I had a blue 6 band but it was really noisy and I didn't like the fact that you couldn't turn it off. I recently picked up a used Danalectro Fish 'n Chips eq for $15 and love it. Super quiet and perfect for slamming the front end of the amp.

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Tue May 17, 2005 7:44 pm

Those Danelectro pedals are pretty cool looking but I would demolish one if I used it. Im one of those that needs "made like a tank" pedals. I'm heavy footed. I smashed three buttons on my ADA MC-1 midi controller. sucks as they don't make replacement buttons anymore.

Any of you have any suggestions on a noise supressor to tame the SD-1?

gnugear · Post by **gnugear** » Tue May 17, 2005 10:16 pm

I've heard the Decimator is the best hush type pedal that you can get ... and this is coming from a couple of super high gain players.

... and that Fish n Chips is pretty flimsy looking. I definitely prefer metal to plastic!

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Tue May 17, 2005 11:02 pm

Yeah that 50's look is way too cool though. They almost look like matchbox cars.

Decimator pedal eh? cool Ill look for it.