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Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:30 am
by Just Mike
When I turn the volume down. I've used the exact same guitar/electronics, which is a Frankish with just a 500k volume pot, with other PU's including a Dimarzio SD, A duncan Hot rails and they don't exhibit this problem. Sooo...is it a bad pickup? It sounds fine when cranked. :scratch:

Never Mind I figured it out

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:06 pm
by Just Mike
:palm:
Don't wire the pot backwards! :oops:

Re: Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:16 am
by darkbluemurder
Unfortunately what you describe is normal. Whenever I had a JB in a guitar the volume pot turned into an ON-Off switch. The JB seemed to me the worst of both worlds: no dynamics and no real power, no low end punch but nevertheless muddy, no singing tone but no clarity either.

Re: Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:40 am
by robert
Maybe this is the reason why this pickup was/ is so popular? :scratch: :wink:

Regards

Robert

Re: Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:27 am
by 908ssp
darkbluemurder wrote:Unfortunately what you describe is normal. Whenever I had a JB in a guitar the volume pot turned into an ON-Off switch. The JB seemed to me the worst of both worlds: no dynamics and no real power, no low end punch but nevertheless muddy, no singing tone but no clarity either.
I agree. Mud city never understood why some people think it is bright. I tried bypass caps on the volume pot that helped but not enough. My favorite solution was to build a hybrid out of it.

Re: Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:32 am
by darkbluemurder
robert wrote:Maybe this is the reason why this pickup was/ is so popular? :scratch: :wink:

Regards

Robert
I have no idea why it is so popular. On the other hand I never met someone personally who liked it.

I replaced the last one I had with a DiMarzio Tone Zone I had lying around - not really a dynamic pickup either but at least it has power and some punch.

Cheers Stephan

Re: Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:44 pm
by Star*Guitar
I found them to me a very mid range type of pickup. Too much mids for my taste. A nasel quality I didn't care for. But there are some that really like it. I suppose in a maple guitar which is a bright wood for instance it might be just the ticket.

Re: Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:11 pm
by T.L.
I have a JB in a Les Paul style guitar, and it sounds good. It's definitely not too bright...

Re: Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:50 pm
by SteadyEddie
I've got a buddy who has an '85 Kramer Baretta. I think it's got a JB in it, it does seem to have this exaggerated midrange growl thing going on. I thought it was due to the pickup slant also.

Re: Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:12 am
by loud and dirty
The JB in my Charvel sounds awful!!! :( Muddy, undefined, no articulation, and still harsh...wtf? I have also had them sound GREAT in other guitars. It's a very finicky pup. The JB seems to like poplar and basswood, btw.

Re: Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:33 am
by yladrd61
Try putting a treble bleed kit on your volume pot ;) ebay is your friend :hairband:

Re: Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:09 am
by Roe
I changed the JB in my MIJ charvel to a duncan screaming demon, definitely an improvement for me. its just more articulated

changed again, this time a suhr SSV+

Re: Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:40 pm
by vanhalen5150
I have a Charvel San Dimas that had a JB in it. It was either on or off. Turning down the volume brought on the suckness. I just put in a StewMac 9.5 K and it sounds great.

Re: Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:54 pm
by zachman
I have a JB in an alder body strat. and LOVE it! No, mud here :what:

Amp was a Marshall 6100 Blue/EL34's

http://tonefinder.com/files/69-HellIsForChildren.mp3

http://tonefinder.com/files/47-PreciousTime.mp3

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Re: Duncan JB gets real muddy

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:00 pm
by T.L.
Hilarious; first I hear people say that the JB is too bright or "harsh"-sounding, and then I hear someone say it sounds "muddy".

It's neither. It's just a good overall-sounding pickup with lots'a of power (but not too much). It definitely produces more over-tones than a '59 or TB-12.

Some players just have harsh-sounding or muddy-sounding guitars/amps...