I REALLY miss my reverb

Bad Kitty · Post by **Bad Kitty** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:26 pm

I may be missing something but is there a way to get some reverb AFTER the amp.

Like an attenuator but with an effects loop.

I have a couple of rack processors that I tried in the front end but they're digital and sound like it too.

When you get that good cranking distortion in the power section an effects loop would distort the reverb too, wouldn't it?

Mike

TomGibbs · Post by **TomGibbs** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:05 pm

hmm, maybe putting a reverb after the amp into another power amp?

i think EVH did something simular to that, but im not sure

blfrd · Post by **blfrd** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:30 pm

I've got a VanAmps Reverbamate I"ll sell ya. It's made for older style amps and has a real spring reverb inside.

Sounds really cool through an old marshall.

Bad Kitty · Post by **Bad Kitty** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:00 pm

Thanks, blfrd but since that goes into the front of the amp it will distort right along with my guitar. What I'm looking for is distorted guitar, clean reverb.

Just out of curiosity though how much are you looking to get for it?

I might have to go the re-amping route. Shit, this whole amp thing is getting expensive

.

Mike

blfrd · Post by **blfrd** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:11 pm

Here's the info on it:

http://www.vanamps.com/reverbamate.html

and a pic:

specs:
Dwell and Output controls
Reverb and Direct outputs
Accutronics

Tone Slinger · Post by **Tone Slinger** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:12 pm

I have heard that brotha' Ed ran a tube echoplex in the front of his amp to get a little more boost and ambiance. The analog type delay's can come close to giving you a reverb type sound. Maybe try a EH Holy Grail or somethin', unless you wanna get a tube Fender reverb knockoff $$$. You are probably right about the distorting power tubes messing up front and loop effects, but try as much as possible.

blfrd · Post by **blfrd** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:15 pm

No offense, but I tried the EH holy grail and the EH Holier Grail and there's no comparison with the Reverbamate. The Holier Grail had a nasty gated sound to it.

The Reverbamate has an actual Accutronics (?) spring reverb inside it.

blfrd · Post by **blfrd** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:31 pm

Tone Slinger wrote:I have heard that brotha' Ed ran a tube echoplex in the front of his amp to get a little more boost and ambiance. The analog type delay's can come close to giving you a reverb type sound. Maybe try a EH Holy Grail or somethin', unless you wanna get a tube Fender reverb knockoff $$$. You are probably right about the distorting power tubes messing up front and loop effects, but try as much as possible.

I've heard that too, but can't see how it could be true. With the way Ed ran his amps (wide open), I would imagine that would be very noisy.
If he were using it as a boost (with the echo down or off) then it *might* have worked.

But I can't see how it would have worked. If he wanted a boost, why didn't he just get some other FET boost or something.

908ssp · Post by **908ssp** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:34 pm

I run an analog delay into my second channel that gives me that fullness and since the second channel can run at a lower volume then the high gain bright channel it doesn't add distorsion to the slap back echo.

What I do is split the cord running from my board with one lead going to the high gain bright input and the other going to the delay and from the delay back to the high gain normal input.

blfrd · Post by **blfrd** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:44 pm

908ssp wrote:I run an analog delay into my second channel that gives me that fullness and since the second channel can run at a lower volume then the high gain bright channel it doesn't add distorsion to the slap back echo.

What I do is split the cord running from my board with one lead going to the high gain bright input and the other going to the delay and from the delay back to the high gain normal input.

I've also heard this works well, but haven's tried it. Does it work better than running to a dummy load then to the effects then to another amp?

It's certainly less gear!

got any clips of this setup?

Riscchip · Post by **Riscchip** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:33 pm

I run my amps into a Weber MASS 150. I send the MASS line out into my lexicon reverb unit then into a Tech 21 power engine. I also run a speaker cable directly from the mass to the cabinet. So I have half wet / half dry. Sounds killer and great at just about any volume when you mix the two.

908ssp · Post by **908ssp** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:43 am

blfrd wrote:
908ssp wrote:I run an analog delay into my second channel that gives me that fullness and since the second channel can run at a lower volume then the high gain bright channel it doesn't add distorsion to the slap back echo.

What I do is split the cord running from my board with one lead going to the high gain bright input and the other going to the delay and from the delay back to the high gain normal input.
I've also heard this works well, but haven's tried it. Does it work better than running to a dummy load then to the effects then to another amp?

It's certainly less gear!

got any clips of this setup?

No I wouldn't say it sounds better. It certainly sounds adequate. Like you said a lot less gear and a fairly simple setup but also more limited. Of course if you know that a simple slap back is all you want you have to ask yourself if all the rest is worth it? I used an Ibanez AD9 last night and it sounded well nearly indistinguishable from the Maxon and cost less then half. I made a Y cable with one lead longer then the other so that it would reach to the top of the amp and the pedal without trying to drag the pedal off the top of the amp. Now the setup is done. Works great sounds terrific. You could do the same with a reverb pedal but I prefer delay.