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Rumor has it that New Sensor has aquired the rights to yet another famed tube trade name. I guess we're not supposed so say just what it is yet, but it involves some sort of colored animal. Do the math.....
Audiophools are gonna have a phit.

Has he no shame?

Gold Lion? "Just like the originals!"

I'm sure the Graphics on the outside of the Tube will
will be exact. Now if they could only get the tone. and
learn how to friggin match a quad.

maybe it says the superficial elements go a long way in marketing. "Mullard", "Tung-Sol", "Amperex", "Bugle Boy", "Drake", "Dagnall", "mustard", "LCR" and on and on... Heck I wouldn't care if they called a tube Yurigagarinpochinskyulyanov 5xgammaPi3.4, as long as it was kick ass.

It's sort of funny in that Matthews has managed to be hated more than Pittman! At least Aspen is trying to offer quality (at a possibly inflated price). These anticks make me want to avoid New Sensor products...

If they were matched they would just be a good/typical Russian El34.
There's nothing wrong with Russian Tubes, I like some Russian Tubes,
but they ain't no XF2s baby.

I had read on the TubeDepot website that the Gold Lion KT88s were going to be reissued by Western Electric (top 'o the line company) and made in the USA, not New Sensor Russian rubbish!!!

mightymike wrote:If they were matched they would just be a good/typical Russian El34.
There's nothing wrong with Russian Tubes, I like some Russian Tubes,
but they ain't no XF2s baby.

Those Mullard reissue won't work (red plate/even melte...) at relatively high B+, I tried 4 quads and first off they were not matched properly than they would sound real sweet but after 10hrs they would just fail (with a B+ 500...), didn't try them at lower voltage maybe there ok at 450-475 range hopefully!!!!

I bought some of those Tung Sol 6550 clones for my Dynaco home stereo amps, and after two months, there's almost no getter left on the sides of the tubes (indicating high gas from poor materials and/or vacuum leaks). I'll never buy their junk again-also had one tube in a quad of their Genalex KT-66 clones burn on me too (also known as GT KT-66HP). However, they did sound good when new, but they just don't last.

That's weird. I've been running a quad of Sovtek KT88's in my Dynaco Mark III clones with no problems for two years. They're still matched and test good. 500+ volts on plates, increased filtering, solid state rectification and NO standby switch! Go figure!

Yes...Groove tubes are seriously inflated...As we all know...All Aspen does is buy millions of tubes and ehhmmm match them wink,wink...They do not manufacture any tubes whatsoever!!

Yes, they do manufacture 6CA7's and 6L6's.

RE: Groove Tubes - even though they use outside assembly for the GE repro 6L6 and 6BA7, they do some of the preliminary work in house. Plus they do have some exclusive designes, like the E34L made by JJ and the GT12AX7-M made in China.

They have done a lot to raise the consiousness of guitarist as relating to tubes and tone.

Would I buy their relabled preamp tubes? Except for the exclusive GT-12ax7-M, as a rule no. There available from other outlets under the original brand names at a decent savings.

With power tubes, you're really paying for their matching process, I personaly don't buy power tubes from them, either. But the GE clones look very cool.

And for the average guy it is a brand name that denotes quality.

It will never be as it was.First of all noone really cares about a few stupid guitar players.And the steel used is not like it WAS made 40 yrs ago,and the envirment(bad spelling)the laws have changed even in Russia all the harmfull crap in tubes Save your money,and pay for the real ones before they are ALL gone.I just finished getting 8 pairs of RCA 6L6GC black plates 2 paire of 5881 for my bassman, and every 12ax7 7025,ECC83-82 every make i could get about 100,Now I'm working on my EL-34 If you think a $100.per tube is alot,wait 10 yrs,My first 57 Strat I got at Guitar Center I paid $125.1969 In 1990 you could still get one for $2500.Nothing sounds like Real NOS tubes, Ps. if you play with drop to Z flat tuning and use Booger amps with 3 fuzz box's don't bother spending the $$$