EVH TONE RIGHT HERE

RACKSYSTEMS · Post by **RACKSYSTEMS** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:27 am

stock ,stock, stock I have looked at all the amps he toured with and they were stock. eq yes, echoplex yes ,distorting the input of the echoplex yes. Also how it was recorded and what cabs and speakers. Remember jbls and 25s. 57 mic, 1176, tape all this make up the sound. You can mic a amp 100 different ways and get 100 different tones. also variac down and turn the bias pot all the way up with no thought about bias. Dave Friedman

harddriver · Post by **harddriver** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:42 am

nitro wrote:I really dont know why people are making this more difficult,its a plexi with a overdrive-distortion unit in front, (im taking about the van halen 1 sound) did ed use eq pedals,yes he did use the mxr 6 band eq and the boss ge10 but i believe that a eq pedal will not achieve that aggressiveness and push like a overdrive-distortion unit.

While I respect your insights and enjoy your posts. I have tried every major vintage overdrive/distortion unit with exception of a dod, fuzzface, dallas arbiter,stuff like that. For me nothing has sounded as good as the Boss GE-10 for aggressiveness and extra gain that a wrung out 1959 needs to be pushed over the top for VH. With that said it is admirable that Mark is trying to get all his tone from the circuit only no additional front end push.

Mark is being awfully silent over his latest acheivement here, spec wise which isn't like him. I guess he feels we all should experiment more,huh. He has shared alot here on this forum that has helped me a ton.

awangotango · Post by **awangotango** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:05 am

that's some great sounding preamp gain !

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:09 am

RACKSYSTEMS wrote:stock ,stock, stock I have looked at all the amps he toured with and they were stock. eq yes, echoplex yes ,distorting the input of the echoplex yes. Also how it was recorded and what cabs and speakers. Remember jbls and 25s. 57 mic, 1176, tape all this make up the sound. You can mic a amp 100 different ways and get 100 different tones. also variac down and turn the bias pot all the way up with no thought about bias. Dave Friedman

i want to try a jbl some time,i think weber makes clones of them to.
stan

davyped · Post by **davyped** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:06 am

As always, sounds excellent Mark. This is your best one yet.

Dave

cary chilton · Post by **cary chilton** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:07 pm

RACKSYSTEMS wrote:stock ,stock, stock I have looked at all the amps he toured with and they were stock. eq yes, echoplex yes ,distorting the input of the echoplex yes. Also how it was recorded and what cabs and speakers. Remember jbls and 25s. 57 mic, 1176, tape all this make up the sound. You can mic a amp 100 different ways and get 100 different tones. also variac down and turn the bias pot all the way up with no thought about bias. Dave Friedman

what is an 1176? Ed used JBL's? I knew they were used by Hendrix and are great for cleans, and blues ,but for the that VH1 sound?

T.J.Fuller · Post by **T.J.Fuller** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:53 pm

Cary,

1176 is a piece of studio gear made by Universal Audio - Class A line level amplifier.

It was instrumental in getting VH1's high end sparkle.

If you a/b side by side clips of the original I'm the one and Rockstah's latest and greatest clip.

You'll hear that very slight difference between the clips.

sparkle.

T.J.Fuller · Post by **T.J.Fuller** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:05 pm

I left out the word "limiting or compressor" Class A line level amp.
and UREI 1176 / Universal 1176.

sorry

Ruben · Post by **Ruben** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:50 pm

Some say ed mixes greeny's with JBL's in his cab. Greenbacks for overdive, JBL = clean

nitro · Post by **nitro** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:55 pm

The 1176 is a limiter-compressor

7string · Post by **7string** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:01 pm

Cary's buddies at the Womb would bust his balls for asking that.

I thinks rockstah's telling the truth. Those casaded amps can get some mean fuzz. He's got 3 vol. pots. 1 after the first stage, one after the tonestack, and the Type 2 MV. You get some good gain staging control that way.

7string · Post by **7string** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:09 pm

It's the "Dual Master Volume".

markanthony · Post by **markanthony** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:58 am

T.J.Fuller wrote:I left out the word "limiting or compressor" Class A line level amp.
and UREI 1176 / Universal 1176. sorry

Key crucial this is what made Im My Opinion eds guitar jump out and grab you that was it !!!! good ears man!! Not to many people bring this up good lord its about time hello

thats it!! I found a couple of site that guys agreed but no many even know of her, Mark you out there??? Go to the studio try one with one of your clips send back results BAM.. I looked at one out of my range lol of course cant be something like a pedal lol 2500.00 and up!!

MA

markanthony · Post by **markanthony** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:05 am

rockstah wrote:have u guys heard this? the best fucking evh spec i have heard is inside my alum chassis right now! i had to say it! i had to say it!

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInf ... ID=5369443

Hey Marky??? Ok I have my plexi built thank you steve again ten times over, Im going to mod her today cascade the pre's thank you stevo again, you spoke of the second stage and cutting out the 330/820 and replace with 10k can you explain, I know stupid? Do i jsut replace all with 10k and thats all or anyone here that might know what mark means?
thanks
Hey I want that tone to

--- and half this guys talent ok wait a min lol thats asking for to much!
MarkAnthony

7string · Post by **7string** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:38 pm

MarkAnthony, It's just the cathode resistor/capacitor on the scond stage of V1,pins 3 or 8. Get the Billy Batz layouts of the 1959 and 2203 and compare the differences. Follow the signal around starting from the input. I think from the input it goes to V1b's grid first on the 2203, then cascade the second stage V1a.

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