12 series versus later 68 circuit versus VH clip!

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:39 pm

anyone what to hear the difference!the 1st part is my amp setup to the 12 series specs,the second part is the amp setup to the later 68 specs with the presence turned down a littleother than that the amp mic placement volume is all the same.the last part is the original VH version to compare to.tell me which you guys prefer!

http://www.mp3lizard.com/download.cfm?id=18819

stan

Bainzy · Post by **Bainzy** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:56 pm

I like them both, they sound very similar and both have 'that sound'. What brand of tubes and brand of signal caps are you using in that amp?

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:10 pm

well the amp is a clone amp with an original late 60s dagnall self lead opt.the caps are mustards.everything else is new stuff george carrys.3.3henry merc choke,merc power tranny b+460.the tubes are the same ones EVH used,jan sylvaina 12ax7wa and the pwer tubes are 6ca7s

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:42 pm

they both sound good - hard to tell -actuyally if you didnt tell me i wouldnt have known... maybe played different but i think i like the second one a touch better - these are the g12m 75hz heritage speakers stan?

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:46 pm

yes they are the heritage g12m greenbacks,my new favorite speaker!

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:01 pm

bmf5150 wrote:yes they are the heritage g12m greenbacks,my new favorite speaker!

sounds good - ima gettin sumu dos!

Bainzy · Post by **Bainzy** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:19 pm

Do you hear a big difference between the classic and heritage ones?

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:23 pm

you mean reis greenbacks versus the heritage?if so yes,there not even close to each other!

texwest · Post by **texwest** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:46 pm

What kind of filtering are you using? Do you have all six cans on top? Or does your clone have them inside?

Wes

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:28 pm

i have them under the board.im using dual 32uf in the preamp, dual 30 uf in series for screens and dual 100 for voltage doublers.the one on the top corner is a dual 50uf.

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:32 am

bmf5150 wrote:i have them under the board.im using dual 32uf in the preamp, dual 30 uf in series for screens and dual 100 for voltage doublers.the one on the top corner is a dual 50uf.

stan do you mean dual 50's jumpered to 100uf in series = 50uf for voltage?
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so 32uf preamp

2 x 30uf in series for 15uf on screens
2 x 100uf in series for 50uf on the mains
a dual 50 jumpered ofr 100uf on the PI ( can on top)

is this what your amp is right now?

Crunchboy · Post by **Crunchboy** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:51 am

Not too close for me. Too much growl on the low D palm mutes. And the upper strings don't have that whistling high-mid voicing.

gnugear · Post by **gnugear** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:52 pm

I'm liking the 12 series specs best!

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:09 pm

interesting,thanks guys.i have a way to go to get unchained to sound correct.i working on it.
stan

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:15 pm

stan, post some pics of your amp