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Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:38 am
by rgalpin
This whole variac thing is getting more and more convincing to me.
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13018815
MXR 6 Band
Stock 100W SL Spec w 2 tubes pulled
Variac'd to around 60V
No attenuator
Bedroom volume coming out of Weber MyTone12 pre-rola-dope
Here is what is different about this clip from my previous tests... previously, I was taking amps that were tweaked to achieve the brown sound WITHOUT this kind of severe variacing. Here I am using a hard as nails, relatively stiff sounding, super lead spec and browning it out with the variac.
Before... I was recording a variac'd brownie -
But now... this clip is a variac'd stiffy.
I think the results are that much closer and more convincing. There are gain and distortion artifacts in this tone that are

Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:06 am
by vh junkie
Very cool! What are the settings on the amp controls and the mxr?
Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:16 am
by rgalpin
The amp is 100% - all knobs on ten - dimed.
The MXR is very touchy in this setup and can take you in and out of VH world with a slight adjustment - what i ended up with in this clip is:
[see EDIT NOTE below]
100 --- +9
200 --- +6
400 --- +9
800 --- +9
1.6k -- +3
3.2k -- +9
I did not mess with these settings as long as I would have liked to considering how much they were changing how the amp reacted when pushed. I have no doubt that I could have spent more time trying settings and listening and gotten closer to what I was looking for - which is that stinging envelope - that makes VH II scorch.
[EDIT NOTE]
After this test, I was messing with this MXR and found that the 200 slider is DEAD! And the other sliders were extremely dirty to the point where at certain settings on each slider the boost or cut that would normally result from the setting was not happening - in other words, in the dirty spots the slider appears to be unengaged. so... take these settings with a grain of salt and 2 advil and keeeeeeep going.
Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:37 am
by Jeremy1283
That sounds amazing. Hell yea. That is vh 2
All day!
What are the specs on the head?
Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:17 pm
by jnew
rgalpin wrote:The amp is 100% - all knobs on ten - dimed.
The MXR is very touchy in this setup and can take you in and out of VH world with a slight adjustment - what i ended up with in this clip is:
100 --- +9
200 --- +6
400 --- +9
800 --- +9
1.6k -- +3
3.2k -- +9
I did not mess with these settings as long as I would have liked to considering how much they were changing how the amp reacted when pushed. I have no doubt that I could have spent more time trying settings and listening and gotten closer to what I was looking for - which is that stinging envelope - that makes VH II scorch.
Almost just a straight boost with the MXR.

Sounds really really good man. Vol I dimed too. I can't get either of my amps to keep that tight, wound up tone on 10. About 7 is all mine goes before it starts to feel shaky or unstable.

Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:50 pm
by Jeremy1283
Any gutshots?

Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:59 pm
by rgalpin
da guts
Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:22 pm
by Jeremy1283
Im perplexed as to why you can dimed your amp and i cant.

Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:22 pm
by Jeremy1283
rgalpin wrote:da guts
Same spec i have.
Hmmm.
Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:18 pm
by rgalpin
EDIT:
do you have a grid resistor on v3 pin 2?
Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:25 pm
by Jeremy1283
Here is my current spec

100k on the nfb with a 4 ohm tap
Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:32 pm
by rgalpin
i have 32+32 filter cap in the pre amp. also - the grid resistor on v3.
Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:57 pm
by Jeremy1283
I see that now.. I tried the grid stopper over james house. It didnt do much to my head.
Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:06 pm
by mapat
Man that sounds really really good!
What's the guitar like? Wood, pickup, trem, etc?
Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:00 am
by rgalpin
As far as I know - the guitar is:
Basswood
Wolfgang humbucker screwed to the wood
Floyd Rose 1000 Series trem