Tempting

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:40 pm

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MultiCardBun

I'm real close to pulling the trigger on this purchase.
I figure I could stack this with a killer Mic pre in a rackmount
brief case type deal and just set my laptop on top.

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 3:44 pm

killer

Post by **VelvetGeorge** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:37 pm

I have the first version of the Multiface and I can vouch for the sound.
It's really ahead of the other consumer level cards in my opinion. The drivers have been rock solid too.

I think it's a great piece.

george

MacGaden · Post by **MacGaden** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:17 pm

I´d be worried about the speed of the laptops internal drive. And it´s hard to add a bigger one. Still, of your laptop has FireWire or USB 2 you could buy a cheap external one. But the bus speeds are important when want to move this much data quickly.

Mark/George: How room does 1 minute of 24 bit audio take up ?
(I left my recording set-up in my other suit..)

Post by **VelvetGeorge** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:45 pm

16 bit 44.1 uses about 10M per minute. I don't recall how much increase there is for 24 bit.

VG

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:34 pm

Well I did it.
Got the whole thing for $799
A little cheaper than Sweetwater.

My laptop has a a P4 3.4 Ghz ,768 mb of DDR SDRAM (upgradeable to 2 gig)
80 gig hard drive at 5400 rpm, 533mhz FSB It's only a couple months old. It's a Toshiba P35-s6053
It was the second best one they had at Sams (When I bought it)
and it has the hypertrheading

Eoin · Post by **Eoin** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:09 am

MacGaden wrote:Mark/George: How room does 1 minute of 24 bit audio take up ?

15.14 MB at 44.1kHz.

(Sample rate in Hz) x (Bit Rate divided by 8 ) x (number of channels) = bytes per second

So 44100 x 24/8 x 2 = 44100 x 3 x 2 = 264600 bytes per second

Times 60 is 1587600 bytes per minute.
Divided by 1024 is 1550.39 KB.
Divided by 1024 is 15.14 MB.

Post by **VelvetGeorge** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:43 pm

I think you'll be very happy. Let us know what kind of tracks you can record and play back with your internal drive. I'll bet the performance will be pretty good.

George

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:46 pm

I'm holding off on any big preamp purchaces until I see how this thing sounds with my mixer, which is a soundcraft. (Who knows? maybe it'll sound good?) Also I'll be keeping tabs on your N72 experiment.
For now, I'm looking for some good monitor speakers for the multiface2.
I like that it has high power headphones out and monitor out. The PC Card is faster than Fire Wire or USB. The quality of the converters was what made me choose this over a 002. Also the "ASIO zero CPU load technology: 0 (zero!)% CPU load when using ALL 36 channels!"

This thing with a Neve, has got to be a beast..

I'm halfway there.

Post by **VelvetGeorge** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:07 pm

I bought RME for the convertors myself. And the solid drivers. Before the Multiface, I was trying to make a MOTU 2408 work with Logic on W98 and it was a train wreck.

Your Soundcraft pres should be pretty good. I wouldn't hesitate to use them.
I have posted a clip in the "I just ordered one one of these" thread. The N72 sounds really good, and has some Neve quality.

It helped me hear a problem I had with a partially damaged 57. It was rolling off around 500 and everything sounded like a telephone. Typical 57 that has been smacked with a drum stick too many times. I'm sure that was part of my headache on those last clips I was making.

Let me know your budget and I can make some monitor suggestions. I think the JBL's that tune themselves to your room are the best project studio monitors out right now.

George

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:47 pm

Got a link to the JBL your talking about?
I'd like to check them out.

Post by **VelvetGeorge** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:05 pm

http://www.jblpro.com/LSR/lsr4300home.html#models

I'm not sure on pricing.

http://www.jblpro.com/LSR/lsr4300home.html#models

VG

NitroLiq · Post by **NitroLiq** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:03 pm

VelvetGeorge wrote:I bought RME for the convertors myself. And the solid drivers. Before the Multiface, I was trying to make a MOTU 2408 work with Logic on W98 and it was a train wreck.

MOTU can be hit-or-miss with older operating systems. I've used a MOTU MicroExpress midi interface for nearly a decade now starting with Cubase on Win95, then 98, now with Logic 5.5 and Nuendo on XP Pro. Every time I'd go to update the o/s on my virus b (synth) I'd do it via a sysex sequence supplied on access-music's site...man, I (and many others on the virus eList) had a bear of a time getting things updated as it always seemed to crap out with the older windows operating systems...I went through hoops trying to get it to work. Switching to XP made things much easier...though I still have had problems with MOTU drivers on occasion...they have crappy customer support as well and I think people would accept the occasional problems here and there if people are actually willing to help them with their product. I mean they're a larger company and they don't support their own stuff...you're a one-man operation and you're very involved with your customers....that's how it should be.

George, if you get a moment it would be interesting to hear a comparison of the mackie pres (I use a 1202 VLZ myself) vs. the kit pres once you start recording your next batch of clips.

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:57 am

Wow they're expensive.

Post by **VelvetGeorge** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:28 am

Ouch! Sorry, I didn't realize they were that much.

VG