what pu, sounding in between SH55 seth lover and WCR Crossr

[electricskychurch]

i have tried several PAF style pu's and i'm looking for something that would sound in between the Seth Lover Seymour Duncan SH55 pu's and the WCR Crossroads set .?
i'd like a airy tone like the WCR but with a bit more mids but not exactly as much as the SH55's.

[fillmore nyc]

i have tried several PAF style pu's and i'm looking for something that would sound in between the Seth Lover Seymour Duncan SH55 pu's and the WCR Crossroads set .?
i'd like a airy tone like the WCR but with a bit more mids but not exactly as much as the SH55's.

Ill bet if you contacted Jim at WCR he could steer you in the right direction.
I've never A/B'd those 2 pickups, but wouldnt they already be very similar??

[electricskychurch]

no, they are not so similar in fact.
sure, they are both PAF repros but the crossroads seems to have less mids (less attitude in a way) , with more high end.
the crossroads are quiet sweet with A2 mags and even with much treble, they are not harsh.
i have 4 sets of WCR (crossroads, darkburst , fillmore and betset ) and they all seem to have that particular sweet airy tone comapred to the classic 57' and even to the SH55's.
my gibson guitars have a really different tone with these WCR , much cleaner & clearer and it's the first time i can play with my guitar tone pot not stuck on 10 ( i put it between 7 and 10) !
wether i play with the neck or bridge pu, the note definition is great ; they are quiet articulate.
but after i played for a while with them , i would like to buy some othet sets of PAF repros but i hesitate to buy some other ones (like throbak, WB, Fralin...).
i'd like other pu's some sounding in between the Crossroads and the SH55, with a bit more mids than the WCR but keeping that airy tone .
maybe i should try the A5 mags in the crossroads and darkburst sets.

[out of focus]

I have a set of Crossroads in my Les Paul.. They came with the A5 magnets.. After a couple weeks I put in some A2's that I ordered from Jim and I kept them that way for nearly a year.. Then I got bored and put the A5's back in .. They have more attitude , more mids with the A5 but still have that airy PAF kind of sound .. I like them with the A5's.. You should try them and see what you think

[electricskychurch]

yes, i will try then again with A5 in some SG guitars as it seems i prefer the sweetness of the A2 in my les paul 59' ri's.
i already have a pair of WCR BetSet with stock A5 mags in a SG61' ri but i'm not really satisfied with the tone i have with that guitar; .
it may be due to the guitar tone in itself and i begin to wonder if the neck joint at the 21th fret is that good , at least with actual SG61' ri necks that are thinner especialy at the neck joint, than the original ones.
before, it seems i was prefering my two SG61' ri's over my SG standard (at that time i had classic 57' pu's in all my Gibson humbucker guitars) and over my SG Angus Young (i finaly sold two years ago).
i had a more "balanced tone" all over the audio spectrum with those SG61's, the SG standard seemed to lack some high end and mids while the angus sg was having a sort of "heavy" tone with much low mids (with classic 57' in the bridge ,as i didn't like the AY pu).
after i read the light weight alluminium tailpiece seems to give more high end than the usual actual stock gibson ones, i think i was right to suppose the lyre vibrola was the cause of those emphasized low mids .

then i put the WCR betset in one sg61' and a WCR crossroads bridge in the other one with A2 mags to compare.
i might prefer the CR bridge in one SG61' ri over the betset in teh other ,although i recognize the A2 mags is a bit too sweet or "polite" in that SG61' ri,; lacking a bit of attitude but maybe the pu's Jim tried to reproduce sounded this way; as in 67' it was some T-Tops in the E clapton SG (not PAF's) .
in another hand i was told that they might have more low mids than the T-tops by George (the WCR he tried at least; maybe the dark burst with A5 i'm not sure).
now that i have installed a dark burst bridge with A2 mags in my SG standard and setup the bridge pu quiet high, i like the tone of this SG standard better than before even it might be a bit too sweet as well.
it is finaly rawer than the SG61 ri's i have with good woody mids and enough low end but less low mids than the SG61' ri what makes a more focused/ less muddy tone with a good bark/grind 'but the DB bridge has more output than the CR or betset bridge !).

i had tried that WCR DarkBurst bridge pu with A5 mag in one of my 2 les paul 59' ri's and it was having too much output and mids for that guitar (that has already nice mids ) in which i prefered the Crossroads set with A2 mags, knowing the pu's are quiet close to the strings on, those les paul 59' ri's anyway.
i put a CR set / A2 as well in my other les paul 59' that his darker sounding, with less high mids but good low end , it really sounds different with much less high mids and more low end.

maybe i should try the betset a5 mags in the SG standard but it might lack some output , or put back the A5 mags in the DB or in a CR set to install them in that SG standard, to get a bit more attitude / less sweetness.

as you can see, the only thing i'm sure of is that those pu's really sound different depending on the guitar you put them in, so it's a long trial and error to find the good combination between guitar and pu's (and mags !) .
also, i think that now i had the time to get used to those WCR (and seth lover sh55 as well) , i prefer them over the clasic 57' with most amps i have used (but not all !! LOL) although it seems difficult to find the right balance between high end, mids, "attitude" , sweetness and output !

as i never heard some original 60's or 50's gibson guitars in direct, it's difficult to compare , so i decided to buy two pairs of T-Top from the late 60's to compare with those at least knowing PAF pu's are too expensive for me (as i don't want to have only 1 or two guitars but like to have several ones ).
unlike the Myth seems to say (that T-Tops are quiet consistent, with about 7,5k +/- 0,25k) i found some with readings all over the place 7,1k , 7,4k , 7,7k and 8,4k, that i will receive soon.
after i read many many reviews ,i'm also interested in the Tom Holmes, Skatterbrane, WB6707 and throbak (high order maybe as well as Fralin) pu's.

[electricskychurch]

after i received the T-tops , i measured them and they were all between 7,2 and 7,6 or 7,7k although it seems to change slightly with temperature changes , so i'm not sure what the sellers measured was true !