Yngwie leaves DiMarzio..who cares!!

[NY Chief]

[... I doubt the world would miss DiMarzio pickups if they went belly up.

And to think they were once the only game in town, eh fil?

[IloveMyMarshall]

I use both Dimarzio and Duncan pickups.

Yngwie's playing is awesome, but his tone has never really impressed me. And, 'sorry, but I think Dimarzio HS-3 pickups sound like shit. I had a set of them many years ago, and I could NEVER get a good tone out of them. They have no high-end, and NO power at all. A vintage fender single-coil pickup has more balls than a HS-3.

And I don't wanna hear that "purist" crap that Yngwie talks about. It's an electric guitar, not acoustic, and he's playing Rock with a over-driven tube-amp, so a super-clean (low-output) pickup shouldn't be an issue. In fact, he wouldn't need the DOD-250 if his pickups had enough power. He could just plug straight into the amp. I'd like to hear him play through some Dimarzio Fast Track-1 pickups. THAT would sound kick-ass.

I love my new Dimarzio "Area 67" pickups though. They are louder than a HS-3, and have lots of crispy high-end. They look and sound like a vintage Fender single-coil from the '60s..

Wait now, I know I had to venture over from the VH section( don't kick me out yet lol) what about this tone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvKqxNea9iA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Give me some of that! You can't get that tone from a humbucker, noway.. I have tried endlessly. I picked up a 97 strat stock pups and I'm so close minus the shredding of course lol
What pups are in this axe right here what is his setup? This tone raises the hair on my neck every time I listen to it.
In my day and this is how I think, Eddie threw a left hook and Malmsteen came along with a over hand right and knocked it out of the park! Talking technique wise.
So I want to put some malmsteen pups in my two strats, what would I go with??? Now that I see the polls are h3 is good well its not good? Help?
Thanks

[yngwie308]

ILMM, at that time Yngwie was using HS-3's in the neck and bridge, with the unused stock Fender pickup in the mid position, lowered down in the pickguard.
On the Malmsteen forum there has been some discussion about how great the DiMarzio's are without the boost and cranked power tube distortion.
On my late 2004 YJM Strat, I had the YJM's in the neck and middle with the HS-3 in the bridge, I'd rather have had the HS-3 in the neck,as for Yngwie, he plays the neck position pickup 98% of the time.
For my next future Strat, I will use the reverse stagger Fralin Woodstocks, I prefer those to Fender's CS'69's.

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yngwie308

[IloveMyMarshall]

Thanks, that's what I wanted to install in the neck position the H-3 Middle disconnect, you know with my 2204 jose metro and this stock strat with the stock pup I was getting that bell like tone and thinking damn thats it, ya know I can do one no two malmsteen type runs lol and man the tone with the single was getting it done, so i figured with a better pup H-3 may do the trick.

So H-3 or 69?
Ok I re read i will try the H3 in the neck..
Thank you..

[Kapo_Polenton]

No way you get a usable lead tone with that pup without a boost. I have one in the neck position and i am juicing a jcm with a soldano hot mod type tube and I still need some extra juice from the YGM 308 modded to grey specs. So plexi alone run on full pin, you will still need some gain and a lot of volume from the boost. The tone however is pretty awesome and smooth.

[Kapo_Polenton]

By the way, watching that live solo clip, I would say he doesn't ride the neck pup as much as you think. A lot of the more aggressive runs sees the toggle switch in the bridge position. Watch it again. Either way, great tones.

[IloveMyMarshall]

By the way, watching that live solo clip, I would say he doesn't ride the neck pup as much as you think. A lot of the more aggressive runs sees the toggle switch in the bridge position. Watch it again. Either way, great tones.

yea I seen that, and wow 93mV on the output, that's Malmsteens setup tho right he boost's his marshall, with that dod 250 correct? back to the lab lol

[T.L.]

I use both Dimarzio and Duncan pickups.

Yngwie's playing is awesome, but his tone has never really impressed me. And, 'sorry, but I think Dimarzio HS-3 pickups sound like shit. I had a set of them many years ago, and I could NEVER get a good tone out of them. They have no high-end, and NO power at all. A vintage fender single-coil pickup has more balls than a HS-3.

And I don't wanna hear that "purist" crap that Yngwie talks about. It's an electric guitar, not acoustic, and he's playing Rock with a over-driven tube-amp, so a super-clean (low-output) pickup shouldn't be an issue. In fact, he wouldn't need the DOD-250 if his pickups had enough power. He could just plug straight into the amp. I'd like to hear him play through some Dimarzio Fast Track-1 pickups. THAT would sound kick-ass.

I love my new Dimarzio "Area 67" pickups though. They are louder than a HS-3, and have lots of crispy high-end. They look and sound like a vintage Fender single-coil from the '60s..

Wait now, I know I had to venture over from the VH section( don't kick me out yet lol) what about this tone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvKqxNea9iA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Give me some of that! You can't get that tone from a humbucker, noway.. I have tried endlessly. I picked up a 97 strat stock pups and I'm so close minus the shredding of course lol
What pups are in this axe right here what is his setup? This tone raises the hair on my neck every time I listen to it.
In my day and this is how I think, Eddie threw a left hook and Malmsteen came along with a over hand right and knocked it out of the park! Talking technique wise.
So I want to put some malmsteen pups in my two strats, what would I go with??? Now that I see the polls are h3 is good well its not good? Help?
Thanks

Without the DOD-250/YJM-308, those HS-3 pickups will have NO balls, an will sound muddy...

[yngwie308]

We'll see what pickup Yngwie choses next and what guitar as well..again for me I am not obsessed with any players anymore. Yngwie has a had a great run, he has on most of the later than that clip material used the neck pickup most, flicking to the bridge to open up the mouth of the vibrato as it were..
With the whole gear scene changing to Axe Fx's and 2X12" set ups with discrete power amps, lots of guys are leaving valve heads and 4X12's by the wayside.
For me a stock Vintage Reissue pickup from the first series, late '82, late '84, these 'stock' spec vintage Fender pickups are awesome.
The stacked humbucking single coil was unique, but the old technology can be just as dynamic with the right amp, pedals and speakers, imo.
I preferred my YJM in the neck on my late 2004, to the HS-3 in the bridge, I thought the bridge sound sucked and the neck had all the treble I wanted personally.
I would have preferred the YJM MK I setup with dual HS-3's, but that's just me.
Sure DiMarzio makes other excellent pickups as does Seymour Duncan, I would be interested in a single coil configuration of the Seymour Duncan Blackouts, that would rock for sure...
Outlier has experimented with all the tone control setups ect, I left my YJM stock, I'll wait until the Play Loud is marked down to $2500 on clearance and play around on one of those, I have plenty of time..
yngwie308

[IloveMyMarshall]

I hear ya Yngwie on the obsession with other players. I like to take snips from there techniques and try to push forward. I will try that H-3 neck pup. I know I sure would love to have that Malmsteen Axe damn that guitar looks like its built like a tank and sound awesome. However, 2500.00 for a guitar? I just cant wrap my tiny brain and wallet around that ya know? I might have to take the plunge next year tho, they have payment plan on one site. Isn't there any bootleg axes out there lol
Oh question are those the old vintage necks 7.5 radius bullet trust rod ect and of course scalloped neck which I got to play one a while back and freekin loved it.

[fillmore nyc]

[... I doubt the world would miss DiMarzio pickups if they went belly up.

And to think they were once the only game in town, eh fil?

The ONLY game in town, initially. For sure, they started the aftermarket pickup revolution, but for some reason, their pickups just fall short compared to other mfg's... the only DiMarzio's I do like are the Virtual Vintage series of Strat pickups IF noise canceling is needed.
If noise canceling is not necessary, just about everyone else has beat their game.
Lets put it this way... they're a good alternative to swap out pickups on a shit guitar if a player is on a budget. Their pickups are pretty cheap compared to other mfg's. Other than that??? LOTS of alternatives that sound way better, IMO.



(Sorry if that was a bit of a thread hijack, Dave!!)

[yngwie308]

ILMM, I was joking the "Play Loud" or Duck as it should have been named was something like $12.5K or some sort of nonsense 'new'.
Remember my whole thread about how I waited 3 years for it to come out and then after putting money down, it was first come, first served for the whole amount..ludicrious.
Listen. I traded my YJM and two mint Marshall HW 4X12" Heritage 30H loaded cabs to raise the cash for my nos 1993 Washburn SS80 quilt maple topped/birdseye maple cap necked beauty, only one in the whole wide world and built for Mr.Stevens himself.
Still with selling all this gear, I had to come up with cash for the other half.......$4500 dollars..for a guitar.
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The most I had ever spent was around $2750 for my '52/'56 Gibson Les Paul Goldtop conversion and my stock 1954 LP Junior at $2500K, back in 1996.
So I have paid more for amps than guitars, always. The Marshall HW 1959 Stack cost me in the neighborhood of around $5.2K new..that's right!!
So I am by no means a Gassing disposable income dude. My wife is unable to work, my hospital is in financial trouble reducing our hours and I have currently three nursing jobs, my 3-12 hr wk full time position, where I have been for almost 9 years and two other agency jobs, just having signed up with a second registry job, they call you up and you go somewhere you have never been before and do the job!
I didn't have to buy the SS guitar, but it was a once in a lifetime opportunity and the guy let me pay it off in 30 days, which I did. I had to sell quick, my 2004 YJM was mint++++ but had to sell her for $1K, could have waited 3 months to get $1.5K on Ebay or something, but I never buy anything to sell again, so you do what you have to...my wife was cool with it, but I am done with gear..the next thing is a diamond ring for her..period.
These are rough times for everyone man, so I don't mean to complain, at least I still have my job, but I went to college for 4 years to do so and I am a late starter, became a nurse at 45 yrs old, bought my first house in 2005, and was married for the first time in 2000, plus I am 55 yrs old, so I am scrambling to keep the SS Yngwie afloat.. but with the good Lord's help, we are getting by.
So when I said a $2500 Duck that's one tenth what they wanted for them when they first came out, I have seen one locally for about $7.5K.
To a guy like me $2K is a lot of bread believe me, ect.
My music writing career is slowly but surely taking off, but I do not expect to make any money at it as I have done it for mostly free, until just recently.
But it's what I love, secondary to playing, it is my way of giving back to younger guys like yourself. I have been at this tone chasing game since 1967, starting in London and at Jim Marshall's Ealing Broadway shop, so I got bit by the Marshall virus at a very young age and have played all the classic amps in my day and am extremely lucky to have done so too!!
As far as Yngwie these days, he needs to write his book as I'm sure it would be interesting.
As I often write here, my Yngwie Strat would have the lightly scalloped neck, with graduated scallops, ala the real Duck and RB's MIM Strat has at the moment, but with a maple board. The bullet truss rod really makes no difference in the tone as it is just another adjustment method for the truss rod, it screws on to the end of it.
Yngwie's idea of the machine thread screws for his tilt-neck 3 bolt to four bolt conversion is a brilliant mounting method for a Strat, with the brass inserts in the neck and this gives incredibly improved tone/vibration transfer to the neck-body-pickups, ect. Yes I would keep the brass nut as that is a key element, as far as pickups, that has been a recent hot topic of discussion.
As I have said again many times, Fender's hand wound-Abagail Yabarra CS '69 winds are cool, but for me Lindy Fralin's Woodstocks, also available with the reverse stagger pole pieces, ala Hendrix on a right hand guitar, would be most awesome and versatile for me.
So that's my dream Fender Custom Shop YJM Strat. I recently read that Ritchie Blackmore also glued his Strat necks to the body, to increase tuning accuracy and stabilize the string alignment, ect. Plus the "7.25 radius, one of the most important factors in the whole equation!!
I am fully of the opinion that a suitable substitute for the HS-3's can be found and one that will work with the DOD Grey spec 250 or modded YJM308's as well.
Currently with my Maxon Super Tubescreamer ST-01 and BSM Spectrum Tommy Bolin tribute pedal I have all the gain, sustain fuzz-boost and a six octave range, so I can get harmonic feedback easily and am loving the tones I have been getting lately.
I sure wish I still had my killer Maestro EP-3 Echoplex I sold in the eighties for stupid reasons as I did with my original grey MXR Flanger, ala Edward, but they are gone.
I would be interested in that EP-3 gain circuit pedal from down under and the only other one I am jonesing for is that Paradox TDF flanger, that's it, plus an old wah and I'm done Also the Eventide Pitch Factor, with the assets of the old Harmonizers
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This would be my dream pedal board and I am halfway there, so that's cool.
Plus I need to get a midi controller to work my amazing Korg SDD-3300 Triple Digital Delay, which though complex, once I can tame the steely beast, has the most amazing effects and the most quiet I have ever heard in an old eighties piece of rack gear. While we are on this subject the Roland Dimension D, would be the cherry on the top of the cake and again I wish I had my old Rockman X-100 back, I had all this cool stuff, that I sold for the usual reasons back in the day, how stupid was that!!
See where I am coming from, then the Fractal Axe-Fx's, I don't really need, I would be a happy man. They haven't been able to come up with a satisfactory Dimension D patch on the Axe-Fx Ultra..yet, but I have asked them to try and who knows, plus good old Steve Stevens has designed the ultimate plexi Marshall tone patch I hear, he has teased us about it, but haven't heard it yet.
Enuff, try that HS-3 in the neck and you will be way happy trust me!!
yngwie308

[yngwie308]

Here is the answer, the Seymour Duncan Fury!!!
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/e ... _yjm_fury/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Knew this was inevitable, interested to hear how they sound and Fender is changing the pickups in their production YJM's, if they are even to continue making them..??
yngwie308

[Kapo_Polenton]

What?!! haha... who would have thought it! Duncan pickups! I always seem to go back to duncan. I dig em. My HS-3 really does have no balls. Not thick enough and juicy for my tastes. I am very interested in their hot stack single coils or maybe even stick a little 59 in the neck. The only thing i wonder is the point of it all... why go to duncan and come out with the same old pickup? Any changes to these i wonder?

[worldoftone]

For my next future Strat, I will use the reverse stagger Fralin Woodstocks, I prefer those to Fender's CS'69's.

I was doing that back in the mid-80s. Not with a Strat but with a different guitar. I loved Jimi Hendrix so I routed pickup cavities opposite of the standard Strat so that the P/Us would be upside down. I wanted to have more of a "Jimi" tone . . . Pretty interesting thinking for a 17-year-old kid.

Then I heard Alcatrazz Live Sentence and put my guitar down for a month . . .

- WOT