Floyd types - The "slop" factor

[Tone Slinger]

Yep, forgot about those. Very similar to the OFR, but with the drop d thingy.

[JimiJames]

The Ernie Ball Floyd versions on the Axis are the best I've ever seen or played. I believe thet are the Gotoh version with a small brass block.

Yeah, Trem made of brass. The OFR’s were hardened steel and by Schaller - MIG.
What is the model # on this Axis Gotoh ?
From closer scrutiny it looks awfully close to the 1996T’s and since it’s made by Gotoh it is likely the same design, but looks to be made of brass as opposed to the hardened steel and the arm which looks like it's permanently affixed to the trem ?
I like the tension adjust feature...
I’m sensing that EVH had some input on the design and now is apparent that he didn’t like the “slop” factor either !

Have to take in consideration what the Trem's radius is set to, so it can match up and installed on other guitars.
Off to the store to play some Axis guitars...

[JimiJames]

Good News Men !
Got a hold of Scott Ando, Gotoh's Int'l Sales Manager. He sent me the 2012 brochure
I ordered a brand spankin' new one so I can do an Apples to Apples comparison.
Coming direct from Japan.



He's worked out a deal for MetroAmp members on a discounted price for
the Gotoh GE1996T Tremolo Unit @ $132.85 ! YES !
Locking nut's you will have to decide using the brochure above.
Shipping & Handling to Continental US would be under $10.00 to ship !
Extra Whammy Bars or the GOTOH F3 Tremolo Arms are also under $10.00 !
Here's the layout :
If you need the lock nuts, you will need either the FGR - 1 / 2 or the GHL - 1 / 2.
The price of the GE1996T with the lock nuts are:
GE1996T - B & FGR - 1 - B $ 157.71
GE1996T - B & FGR - 2 - B $ 157.71
GE1996T - B & GHL - 1 - B $ 155.51
GE1996T - B & GHL - 2 - B $ 155.51
Please note that there are 2 black finishes B and CK2. B is Black Chrome and CK2 is Cosmo Black. B finish is quoted.
Don't forget about the Brass Block size.

Now...
Here's the beauty of it... It's not much, but he has also worked out a $5.00 off on top of the discount to each MetroAmp member and will credit your account to put towards your order. *High-Five* to Scott on that one !
Make sure your mention that !

Here's the kicker, not only does it look killer and is Superior to the OFR it also accepts a D-Tuna !
YES !
Most likely what's on the EVH's without the Gotoh Logo

One of the traditional models also have a Solid Steel base & Steel saddles for those who are going that route !
Alternative to Callaham


Looky Here ..
Contact:
Scott Ando @ Domo Int'l, domointl@gmail.com
More infos and pic's here:
Gotoh International
Ruokangas
Now that's what I call "The "NO-slop" factor" !
If they ever come out with a LoPro version THAT would be the Ultimate !

[somethin'else]

Jimmie, these are righteous. Great sleuthing, Bro!

[ErickC]

FYI, the EVH Floyd (on the Fender WGs) is a branded FRT-O2000

[vanhalen5150]

Yeah, the EVH WG's do not have the same trem as the Axis. I thought the Axis version was much better.

[Tone Slinger]

My 2006 OFR (MIG 'Made In Germany') has the small brass block. It has a nickel coating on it though. This unit actually 'sounds' pretty good, considering floyd rose systems.

I like what I see, concerning the new Gotoh catalogue JJ has posted though.

[mightymike]

The body is already cut onthe guitar I'm having Kyle build, I will definatly try this bridge on the next build. Harder materials to keep the knife edge and tone , and no slop. What's not to like? I wonder if the sustain block is beefy an if the springs it comes with are steel.

[JimiJames]

Just came in today ! (Also you can figure or factor in this wait period for the orders placed.)
Everything I'd hoped it to be and is definitely without a doubt, the Heavyweight Champeen of current systems.
Oh, and as the thread topic sorta reads... NO FUCKIN" SLOP !
The Unit is tight! Craftsmanship and quality to the 9's. Beef, beef, beef !

It does look like I will be shortening the bar that comes with this unit, both ways, to suit my needs. (ala Gilmour shorty)
Although, It's a slightly thinner gauge bar than the Ibanez Edge's, Luckily, this too can be easily adjusted due to its non-threaded/grooved design !
I initially ordered 2 extra bars (to have extra being that it's an overseas item)
that were mistakenly not included with the order, but Scott rectified that and is on his next order to Japan.

Now I have to set up the body to drill out and countersink the anchors matching up for the intonation...
Off to the laboratory !


Jimmie

[vanhalen5150]

Just ordered the gold one. For the KNE "Lynch Demartini".

[JimiJames]

Awesome ! Whatta' ya think of those parts from KNE ? It looks like the body would ping if you flicked your knuckle on it...

All Black Tuners? Matching Gold w/black pegs ? ....

....Becauss I got it more gold een my teeth than ju do on ju geetara, Japoe.
... Ohh ya.. ju no forget it dee contour shim's for saddlinos 2,3,4,5. for dee radius of ju neck, ya?
I get it mine ober here : http://www.ibanezrules.com/parts.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (& locking nut shims, too.)

Ju put it dee Drop-D'marTuna, meester ?

[vanhalen5150]

Very good quality from KNE. Body is a 2 piece mahogany. Neck is a maple/maple cap with stainless med/jumbo stainless. 16 radius. Neck feels just slightly bigger than the old Ibanez wizard necks from the late 80/90's. I'm thinking black pegs. Paint undecided.... Maybe a nitro clear coat.
I think the body/neck combo was around $340. I have to do a little work on the fret ends for my liking, but overall I like the guys stuff. You just can't beat his prices for the quality your getting. It takes the neck longer with the maple cap neck, but normally his turn around time is 2 weeks. I've had bodies sent out from him in just a few days before and arrive in a week. I have a Duncan custom custom I want to try on this one.

[vanhalen5150]

What size blocks do they have? I don't see it posted anywhere?

[JimiJames]

It's right on their website.

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http://www.g-gotoh.com/domestic/dimensi ... T-Dim3.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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There are 3 options. 34,37 & 41. I went for the 37 (or 36mm) because I had the room in my cavity and the springs tension carries straight across as opposed to a slight downward plane from the claw to the block. They hand write that
on the box label if you look and notice in #6 pic ...

For shit's 'n giggles I installed it on my other guitar to see how it looks and as you can see a perfect fit.
Most of all, functionality and how the action of the fulcrum feels in the hands.
I did set these anchors previously on this Fender HM Strat (came with a Kahler SPYDER), but
just to show it works for an Ibanez Floyd.
(Satisfied my suspicions there by doing that, seeing that this unit is going on another build...)

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Take a look at these. These will give an idea and can view the comparison installed & side-by-side.
The new GOTOH and (old GOTOH) Ibanez EDGE & LoPro
(Stock & New / stock & upgraded)












Again, Japoe... Don't forget to get shim's for under the saddles of 2,3,4,5 to match the contour of your radius.
Nut height adjustment shim's come with the GOTOH 1996 so, possibly no need for those...possibly...

Did you see their tuners ?

[vanhalen5150]

I looked st the depth of the KNE and its pretty deep. I tried another Floyd with a 37 and it fits perfect.