1959 2013 LP Build

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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by vanhalen5150 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:24 am

The other trick thats quite effective is to clamp a belt sander to your bench. You can use some scrap wood under it and use the same thickness under your blank. Use a square and make sure the belt is a perfect 90 degrees.
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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by vanhalen5150 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:27 am

Get the edges as close to the lines as possible. That caulking roll makes for a great sanding block. :lol:
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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by vanhalen5150 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:29 am

I need my top to be 5/8"ths. I mark aproximately from the top down. I used a router and a large sanding block to remove the excess. SHIT BLIZZARD ALERT!.....what I couldn't see, was there was a flaw in the wood that didnt reveal itself until I removed the excess from the bottom.....I may be ok with this but if comes out in the top, I'll remove the top and put on a new one. I should be able to see what I have after some routing.....
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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by vanhalen5150 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:31 am

Here is the flaw from the side. :?

Next I use double faced tape, and line up the template for the channel that runs the switch and PU's to the control cavity. I used a cheap 1/2" router bit and got a little burnout. No big deal. African mahogany is pretty f'ing hard.
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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by vanhalen5150 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:33 am

Mixed up some hide/hyde glue. I use a 1:1 ratio, in a mason jar that sits inside a pot with about 2" of water. The glue melts at pretty easy and is pretty fluid at 145 degrees. No need for a thermometer. Its pretty liquidy thin

I have all my clamps pre set to the correct height. I line up the straight lines on the body blank with the center line of the maple top. I add the spring clamps first and then add the others. Before adding the glue to the body blank, I heat the mahogany with a heat gun. This gives you a little extra time if you need to adjust the top. I only add glue to the mahogany blank with a paint brush. I forgot to tape the sides to prevent glue run from being sanded. :lol:

Leaving the top clamped/glued for about 2 days.
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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by vanhalen5150 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:23 am

Some interesting things you realize. even though you are using templates, the sanding process will cause every guitar to be a bit different. Gibson used a large belt sander back in the 50/60's and the templates eventually would wear from the router bearings. No 2 vintage Gibsons are exactly the same.
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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by vanhalen5150 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:57 am

Did a test router over the dark flaw. Have to replace the top. Yippeeeee! Lets see how easy hide glue is to reheat.
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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by somethin'else » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:56 am

Aw man, bumsies. I thought that dark 'knot' was cool, like Marilyn's beauty spot.
Did you totally lose the maple?
Big flexi scraper/spatula, heat with gun or over stove (wear glove).
Wedge that hot blade all around the edges and work towards the middle.
Love that your sharing this. Can't wait to see the neck fab & join!
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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by vanhalen5150 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:56 am

Yeah its a downer but Ill get it staightened out. Here is a pic before I started routing. Gluing a new top up today, hopefully back to where I should be by the weekend. Luckily I used hide glue, otherwise I'd be totally screwed.
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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by Tone Slinger » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:55 am

Very cool Shannon :thumbsup: . I guess when you have conquered amp building you move on to guitars :wink: . I think that, as sweet as it is to make your own amp, that a GUITAR is even sweeter. It's just more personal.
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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by rgorke » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:46 pm

So, why do you have to replace the top? Did you make a router oopsie?
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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by vanhalen5150 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:23 pm

Certainly not conquering of amps. :lol:

I removed the top because of a flaw I couldn't see in the wood until I started to router down the top edges. It was a long dark spot that wouldn't have looked great. I'm sure these tops became the painted tops Gibson put out.

Successfully removed the top and have another glued up.
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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by 6burgh » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:29 pm

Always wondered what my Ebony standard looked like without the paint! :lol: knots and wormholes!

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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by vanhalen5150 » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:25 am

6burgh wrote:Always wondered what my Ebony standard looked like without the paint! :lol: knots and wormholes!
You never know....sand it down! :P
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Re: 1959 2013 LP Build

Post by vanhalen5150 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:35 am

New top.
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