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Lar/Mar MV tone problems

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:35 pm
by Major Sparky
Ok, so I built a 50 watt with materials from triode. Fired it up and everything is great. It sounds killer, and isn't too noisy either. I do have a minor issue with random feedback happening though, but that doesn't bother me now.

I decided to put in the Lar/Mar MV because I wasn't sure if I was going to shell out the money for an attenuator or power scaling. I read a lot of good reviews on here about that MV so I was hopeful that after having that installed my gain needs would be satisfied while I jammed at home. Well I've installed it and I'm running into a problem. Everything works right to my knowledge but it doesn't sound good. Whenever I use the MV the distortion sounds thin, farty, and kind of harsh. Is there anything I can do to tweak this? Maybe I didn't do something right?

Re: Lar/Mar MV tone problems

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:15 pm
by SteadyEddie
Did you use shielded cable? Ground the shield at one end?

Re: Lar/Mar MV tone problems

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:32 pm
by Janglin_Jack
Major Sparky wrote:Ok, so I built a 50 watt with materials from triode. Fired it up and everything is great. It sounds killer, and isn't too noisy either. I do have a minor issue with random feedback happening though, but that doesn't bother me now.

I decided to put in the Lar/Mar MV because I wasn't sure if I was going to shell out the money for an attenuator or power scaling. I read a lot of good reviews on here about that MV so I was hopeful that after having that installed my gain needs would be satisfied while I jammed at home. Well I've installed it and I'm running into a problem. Everything works right to my knowledge but it doesn't sound good. Whenever I use the MV the distortion sounds thin, farty, and kind of harsh. Is there anything I can do to tweak this? Maybe I didn't do something right?
Did you use the right value resistors nd dual concentric pot?

Mike

Re: Lar/Mar MV tone problems

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:13 am
by Major Sparky
Yes I'm sure I have the right values and I definitely used shielded cable. I got the parts from here, http://www.valvestorm.com/Amp%20Mods/LarMar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and followed the layout here, http://metroamp.com/wiki/index.php/Lar/Mar_PPI-MV" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Lar/Mar MV tone problems

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:11 am
by demonufo
They're pretty good, but any post phase inverter master volume sounds pretty crappy when throttled right back. IMO, the only way to get a big amp down to acceptable home levels is to use a little of the PPIMV and a bit of attenuation.
But even then, the speakers aren't working hard enough...

Re: Lar/Mar MV tone problems

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:29 pm
by Major Sparky
I knew I wasn't going to get great tones, but I didn't think it would sound this bad. Especially after hearing about other people getting good results.

Re: Lar/Mar MV tone problems

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:46 pm
by SteadyEddie
Mine sounds great around halfway and still very good the rest of the way down to whisper volumes.

Re: Lar/Mar MV tone problems

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:48 pm
by Major Sparky
Alright, I must have messed something up then. I'll go back and check over everything to make sure nothings misplaced.

Re: Lar/Mar MV tone problems

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:13 pm
by MacGaden
Pictures would help...