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All right I know you 50 watters are out there. Let's hear them!!! I'll try my luck or lack at recording the 2 I have this weekend.

This topic seems to be a good idea! But hey, where's everbody !? Can't wait to hear your favourite amps sing...

A couple of weeks ago I recorded my JMP 1987 just for fun. Saturday afternoon, alone at home, a couple of beers, a simple backing track and power on - volume up (a lot )... I'll share it with you if you accept some slipshod performance on the frets (enthusiastic amateur and will always be).

Well, the amp is a Marshall 1987, originally from 1983. This summer I re-built the amp completely with new ptp board (my own design).
- All filter caps are replaced. The first one is still a can cap and the rest are axial caps on the board (PI 47uF, preamp double 16uF=32uF).
- The OT is a Marstran from Brian Wallace.
- Sozo Caps. 2W metal film resistors.
- Split V1 cathode. 0,68uF on V2 cathod. 390pF/56k in the tonestack. 0,047uF after PI. PPMIV (not used in this clip, it's on 10).
- I use a mix of Tung Sol and chineese preamp tubes. I don't remember what power tubes I put in, but I think it's cheap Svetlanas this time.
- Cab is a Marshall 1960AX RI Greenbacks. Guitar a Gibson SG RI '61 with Seymoud Duncan JB/59.
- Volume on the rythm guitars about 6-7. Solo guitar almost all the way up. Everything else about middle. Both channels used.

http://www.beggat.com/Planket/Izzy/jmp_goesfunky2.mp3

/G

All of the guitar bits in these songs were recorded with my '72 1987...

You Better Run

You Blood Runs Cold

Hurts like a Broken Heart (yeah, I'm a sensitive SOB...)

I'm sure there are at least two or three Interweb gear board users who haven't heard these clips...

i've been studying Angus' tone again recently and am convinced, that tone, (in various forms from back in black, back towards their first l.p. ) is a perfect example of 50W tone with the stock drake tranny. I even played a 50w reissue once that instanly got Angus tone. It's almost harder not to get it with the 50w marshall ! Of particluar interest to me was the classic hippodrome show from '78 or so. friggin great stuff. It's floating around on bootleg dvd's as well. Maybe even officially released somewhere? ...........But, to answer your request for clips, i direct you to youtube.com or somehwere and search angus or hippodrome.( Lot's of killer shows at the hippodrome were captured. maybe youtube has some others. ) .............or just break out your vinyl ad/dc records to hear that tone. I know, no one knows really what he used. My bet is on the 50w. medium feedback, no v2 bypass caps or other gainy addons. maybe even a higher rated volume pot (try the 470k resistor in place of bright cap trick to simulate the higher pot - parkhead mod), which adds some saturation in the angus style

Michael I couldnt get yours to play on my computer ? Gunner, that was a great sound ! Very UFO era Michael Schenker to these ears. I could tell with that sound that the harder you played the more distorted it get's. Real good!

Tone Slinger wrote:Michael I couldnt get yours to play on my computer ?

The place where I have them hosted has been going down intermittently the last few days. Try again, it should work...

http://www.myspace.com/rpgva

Here's some rough mix/demos that'll be on our next long player. The lead tracks on the songs "She Thinks" and "Never Fails" are both my '74 JMP 1987 through an 8 ohm 4x12 w/ vintage 30's.

Disclaimer: We are a three chord rock and roll band. There is no shredding contained in these songs.

Tone over talent.

Wow Conner...I frickin LOVE that shit! I like the tone and the singer kicks some serious ass.

Who needs shredding...

I really like your sound (both amp and the band).

Conner - what guitar do you use?

/G

Thanks a ton! I'm the singer, too, so thanks for that as well!

Forgot to mention above that the amp is 6550 powered. The other guitarist was using a Sunn Model T or a MusicMan HD130 into a Hiwatt 4x12 w/ Fanes. His guitar is a Framus Rengade.

My guitar on "She Thinks" is a p90 equipped Agile LP copy of all things, and on "Never Fails" it's a guitar that was built for me by a guy in Cleveland, OH named Jon Hill. Solid mahogany body, walnut top, flying v control setup, Rio Grande BBQ pu's. It looks like this:

Love the clips guys. I can't wait to hear more. I have a few in my Soundclick also of my 50 watters. I'm in the process of dialing in my new 1987 but I think I have the wrong cab for this particular amp. I really think I need a vintage cab.

Well, here's something I've recorded with my P2P Metroamp Lead 50W assembled into a rare Marshall 1987S ('88 Reissue) head:
http://mp3.jucciz.com/marsu/

Specs:
* Sozo "Mustard Type" and Silver Mica capacitors
* Sprague Atom electrolytic capacitors
* F&T filter capacitors
* Split cathode V1a 320uf/820, V1b .68uf/2,7k
* Bright channel coupling cap is .0022uf, all other coupling caps are .022uf
* 470k mixer resistors
* 100pf bright cap on volume pot I
* 500pf mixer bypass cap
* No bypass cap on V2a
* 33k/500pf tone stack combo
* 47k NFB resistor
* 220k bias splitter resistors
* .68uf cap on the presence control
* Alpha potentiometers
* Drake transformers and choke (dated 1988)

Preamp tubes: 3x Telefunken ECC83 (V1: smooth plate, V2&V3: ribbed plate)
Power tubes: Svetlana =C= EL34

The cab used was a Marshall 1960TV with 4x Celestion G12M Greenbacks. Most of the clips were recorded with Shure SM57 and Sennheiser MD421 pointing directly to the center of the speaker cone and simply mixed together.

Pictures here:
http://jucciz.com/kuvia/kitarat/marshal ... -to-point/

And finally a photo of the mighty halfstack (notice the large head case and the unusual placement of the logo and the horizontal gold piping!):
http://jucciz.com/kuvia/kitarat/halfstack.jpg

Me likes.

More discussion about the amp itself here:
http://forum.metroamp.com/viewtopic.php?t=6751

Mine...

http://download.yousendit.com/57FC627A6BC9BD3A

nice work guys. a variety of marshall sweetness. we have quite the army around here.

Loved the clips, thanks guys!