S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by gluke » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:03 am

There are clips coming. I gave my ears a little rest over the weekend and now it seems I gotta relearn the parts....
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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by gluke » Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:41 am

Here's the current layout:

WTTJ solo1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMv3W-NXH6o

Sounds pretty good to me and now it does that SCOM thing too, although I still don't have a proper LP to do SCOM. Will see if I can find somebody who will lend me one. Off course there was a Slash AFD one posted on the local used pages over the weekend......
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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by dukeamps » Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:57 am

gluke wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:41 am
Here's the current layout:

WTTJ solo1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMv3W-NXH6o

Sounds pretty good to me and now it does that SCOM thing too, although I still don't have a proper LP to do SCOM. Will see if I can find somebody who will lend me one. Off course there was a Slash AFD one posted on the local used pages over the weekend......
Sounds good, what updates did you make to the spec ?

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by gluke » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:51 am

dukeamps wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:57 am

Sounds good, what updates did you make to the spec ?
I swapped the position of the second pot and the 470k+470p/470k. I realised that when I swapped the stages around I only did it, like, half way. Now it is fully swapped.

So now it's:

2k7/.68/.022/470p+470k/5n

10k/.022/470p+470k/470k

3k3/.68/.022

820/.47

100k/.1
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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by dukeamps » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:48 am

gluke wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:51 am
dukeamps wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:57 am

Sounds good, what updates did you make to the spec ?
I swapped the position of the second pot and the 470k+470p/470k. I realised that when I swapped the stages around I only did it, like, half way. Now it is fully swapped.

So now it's:

2k7/.68/.022/470p+470k/5n

10k/.022/470p+470k/470k

3k3/.68/.022

820/.47

100k/.1
Good job, well done :toast:

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by gluke » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:54 am

dukeamps wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:48 am

Good job, well done :toast:
Thank you sir!
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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by gluke » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:58 am

dukeamps wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 6:46 am

That spec is good, I found that SCOM worked best with 3k3.68u, but then NT didtn't seem to like it lol, so i settled on 3k.68u it seemed to work best for all, but it might be different with your setup.
It does seem like my amp is quite ok with 3k3.
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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by dukeamps » Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:03 am

gluke wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:54 am
dukeamps wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:48 am

Good job, well done :toast:
Thank you sir!
You are welcome :)

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by dukeamps » Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:04 am

gluke wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:58 am
dukeamps wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 6:46 am

That spec is good, I found that SCOM worked best with 3k3.68u, but then NT didtn't seem to like it lol, so i settled on 3k.68u it seemed to work best for all, but it might be different with your setup.
It does seem like my amp is quite ok with 3k3.
yep something about the 3k3 that works in most amps.

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by CoffeeTones » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:49 pm

2k7/.68/.022/1n+470k/5n

10k//.22u /.022/470p+470k/470k

3k3/.68/.022

820

500p/33k

100k/.1

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by snakepit86 » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:48 pm

CoffeeTones wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:49 pm
2k7/.68/.022/1n+470k/5n

10k//.22u /.022/470p+470k/470k

3k3/.68/.022

820

500p/33k

100k/.1

Hi Cofee, i tried this almost exact settings last week and the 10k/.22 its not ok on the #36, it gives you the mid honk but it takes away a lot of bottom end, try .47uf instead :wink:

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by snakepit86 » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:55 pm

gluke wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 3:13 am
sonoman1979 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 11:43 am
No probs. just curious to see if someone did a recording with similar settings, but also think that ideally is best to get the right tone with the settings you are using.
Well in all fairness I will also try anything under the sun to see if that gets me there......

Mostly I'd like to know what Frank Levi's idea behind this mod was. So far it seems I ain't got a clue...... I keep modding in circles trying 2-3 things a day.
I remember to hear int a interview or something that Frank said that he was interested in a mod that can give you all the sounds without the channel switching (not very implemented in that era, remember that Tim and Frank modded the amps before even Soldano were buildind the SLO) just by rollinng off the guitar volume

Last week i changed my mind about the #36 and started to add some new ways to look (ear) it, by listeting the AFD double mono Slash album i made a couple of years ago and posted here (just open any daw remove the izzy channel and paste the slash channel so you get a double mono song) i realized that the mod its big and yet punchy, mid focus but not wah honky like

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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by gluke » Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:34 am

snakepit86 wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:48 pm

Hi Cofee, i tried this almost exact settings last week and the 10k/.22 its not ok on the #36, it gives you the mid honk but it takes away a lot of bottom end, try .47uf instead :wink:
My experience too. With the .1 presence a .47 or a .68 is needed to fill out the low end.
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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by gluke » Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:45 am

snakepit86 wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:55 pm

I remember to hear in a interview or something that Frank said that he was interested in a mod that can give you all the sounds without the channel switching (not very implemented in that era, remember that Tim and Frank modded the amps before even Soldano were building the SLO) just by rolling off the guitar volume
I thought that was more about his later mods, but not sure.

I tend to look at mods like versions of "something". To me this is kinda like a 2203/SL hybrid. The 2203 had already been around for a while, but it seems to me that in LA people preferred the Jose or Lee Jackson or Caswell or Levi thing to the stock 2203s. Still features of the 2203 layout are present in several of the mods.
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Re: S.I.R. 100W SuperLead Schematic pt. II

Post by gluke » Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:02 am

CoffeeTones wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:49 pm
2k7/.68/.022/1n+470k/5n

10k//.22u /.022/470p+470k/470k

3k3/.68/.022

820

500p/33k

100k/.1
My amp did not like moving the cap to the 10k. I did up the peaker to 1n though and now it sounds like this:

WTTJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyNq5izETlk
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