Your Hendrix Pedals?

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Re: Your Hendrix Pedals?

Post by garbeaj » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:29 am

shakti wrote:Still trying to find the right Octavio style pedal which will do both BOG sounds, One Rainy Wish and Jeff Beck's Wired era tones.
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Re: Your Hendrix Pedals?

Post by Xplorer » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:05 pm

i think that Jeff beck used another effect, doing these octavia sounds. not a roger mayer octavia, from my memory, but a
Mutron Octave Divider. later : an EBS Octabass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja8hW1cgwr4&NR=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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why can't you reach these BOG tones with a simple modern RM octavia ? i can
this one isn't bad too : http://www.elitetone.com/fillmore.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; but they had better clips before, really BOG. i don't like the youtube clip. maybe the second clip ..

my hendrix pedals are : an early megavibe, a home made fuzz with about 20 different combinations of fuzz, an italian vox 846 that sounds spot on "burning of the midnight lamp", an RM octavia. more pedals to come, or home made pedals, especialy a special fuzz for BOG, and a jc maillet's univibe.
a metro superlead 69 and a jtm45/100 that i'll build. still collecting parts.

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Re: Your Hendrix Pedals?

Post by Tone Slinger » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:42 pm

I agree with Garbeaj about the early 'Experience' pedals. I know its a FOXX 'tone Machine' clone (post Hendrix) BUT,, it got INCREDIBLE HENDRIX type tone. I remember that KWS's 'Blue On Black' was hot ( '96 I think), I nailed it to perfection in a Charlotte music store using that pedal (Experience) when it (Blue On Black) was first out. I know KWS didnt use the EXPERIENCE pedal on that (he probably had a reAL OCTAVIA), but the Experience just 'tracked' so good in its OCTAVE mode. I also had a very early 'YARD BOX' (pure early Beck and Led Zeppelin 1 and 2 !)


I traded the Experience :oops: ,, as well as the 'Yard Box'. The early Millenium versions werent nearly as good :oops: ,, as I tried to 'recover' these losses. No cigar.
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Re: Your Hendrix Pedals?

Post by garbeaj » Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:13 pm

Tone Slinger wrote:I agree with Garbeaj about the early 'Experience' pedals. I know its a FOXX 'tone Machine' clone (post Hendrix) BUT,, it got INCREDIBLE HENDRIX type tone. I remember that KWS's 'Blue On Black' was hot ( '96 I think), I nailed it to perfection in a Charlotte music store using that pedal (Experience) when it (Blue On Black) was first out. I know KWS didnt use the EXPERIENCE pedal on that (he probably had a reAL OCTAVIA), but the Experience just 'tracked' so good in its OCTAVE mode. I also had a very early 'YARD BOX' (pure early Beck and Led Zeppelin 1 and 2 !)


I traded the Experience :oops: ,, as well as the 'Yard Box'. The early Millenium versions werent nearly as good :oops: ,, as I tried to 'recover' these losses. No cigar.
The early Experience pedals were gold and I do regret getting rid of mine...but I have to say The Yardbox was nowhere near the ballpark for the Page fuzz in The Yardbirds and the first Led Zeppelin album. I have done an awful lot of searching for THE Page fuzz tone from that era (in fact I tried The Yardbox almost the day it was available for purchase), and really and truthfully NO ONE has nailed it. The closest I have are the D*A*M build of the MKII Solasound Tonebender and a pedal that Stu Castledine built for me with Marshall SupaFuzz MK 1.5 guts- the Supafuzz MK 1.5 build gets it closer (but not quite-it is actually closer to Beck's Truth fuzz). But I'm afraid that exact Page fuzz circuit is a mystery for the ages. Many sites and forums are devoted pretty much exclusively to THAT fuzz and after all these years, no one has really nailed it.

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Re: Your Hendrix Pedals?

Post by Tone Slinger » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:14 pm

I ordered my Yard Box from the dude (Prescription Electronics founder) in like '94 or '95 I think it was. I read a review of it in a Guitar Player mag. At that time, I was 'in between' amp heads, having just sold my 100 watt JCM 900 (my LEAST favorite Marshall I've ever owned). I ran a little 15 watt Fender solid state combo (early '80's, I think Paul Rivera designed it) through my Marshall 4/12 with the 6402 coned Greenbacks.

I got that PURE mid 'honk' type thing, though, I did realize that this pedal (Yardbox) was a little TIGHTER sounding than what Page had used. Page had just a hair more 'fuzz/fizz' and was a tad 'looser' in its tracking.

Still, that pedal was as close as I've heard, that is, when taking into account what you said about NO pedal really NAILING it.

I tried a early millenium Yardbox at a Sam Ash, and it wasnt nearly as good. That vowelly type thing wasnt nearly as apparent.

I think the earlier one I had must have had some real good nos transistors in it. Too bad I didnt know electronics back then :o .

From what I've heard, the FULLTONE 'Plimsoul' is alright for recent stuff, though I havent seen what it is a clone or 'redesign' of.
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Re: Your Hendrix Pedals?

Post by garbeaj » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:09 pm

Tone Slinger wrote:I ordered my Yard Box from the dude (Prescription Electronics founder) in like '94 or '95 I think it was. I read a review of it in a Guitar Player mag. At that time, I was 'in between' amp heads, having just sold my 100 watt JCM 900 (my LEAST favorite Marshall I've ever owned). I ran a little 15 watt Fender solid state combo (early '80's, I think Paul Rivera designed it) through my Marshall 4/12 with the 6402 coned Greenbacks.

I got that PURE mid 'honk' type thing, though, I did realize that this pedal (Yardbox) was a little TIGHTER sounding than what Page had used. Page had just a hair more 'fuzz/fizz' and was a tad 'looser' in its tracking.

Still, that pedal was as close as I've heard, that is, when taking into account what you said about NO pedal really NAILING it.

I tried a early millenium Yardbox at a Sam Ash, and it wasnt nearly as good. That vowelly type thing wasnt nearly as apparent.

I think the earlier one I had must have had some real good nos transistors in it. Too bad I didnt know electronics back then :o .

From what I've heard, the FULLTONE 'Plimsoul' is alright for recent stuff, though I havent seen what it is a clone or 'redesign' of.
I think you are right about the earlier Yardbox being better than the later ones...truthfully the D*A*M builds will be a hell of alot closer to the MKII pedal's original design...but Page's had ALOT more hair and chaos in it than any of the new builds. Most builds are more reissue Fuzzface sounding (that tight sound as you called it)...one thing to look for in a Tonebender clone are actual old OC75 transistors. They get closer to that mid-boosted, extra hairy tone of Little Games, Led Zeppelin, and the sound of Alan Parker's solos on Donovan's "Hurdy Gurdy Man" single...Many new builds use OC81D's, which were also used in many originals, but they lack the "chaos and hair" and mid-range that one looks for in a Page style Tonebender...

I have tried the Plimsoul...closer to the Marshall SupaFuzz IMHO...

Off the track of Hendrix again, but Hendrix style Fuzzfaces are also extremely variable just as the newer Tonebender clones. The real vintage ones, whether they are germanium or silicon, have a more ragged sound than the modern reissues (80s and newer). Jimi's varied as well. They reacted differently still when chained with the Uni-Vibe in the later period...much different than the always on Fuzzface only setup that Jimi generally used for Are You Experienced? and Monterey Pop...

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