Hendrix BOG Pics?

[basile865]

Does anybody have any good pictures that were taken from the BOG Fillmore East concert? thanks

[yngwie308]

I have never seen a picture of Jimi's amps from the back showing any to be a Super Bass, I queried the apperance of the Black Flag JTM Jimi os show with at several European and one American concert, it is unknown whether it is a Super Lead or Bass.
I have known, from the moment I first heard my Track records copy of BOG, in England, that the sound was different, fuller, ect.
But this Super Bass BOG urban legend is somewhat out of hand recently,
it is like the Clapton Rangemaster theories on another forum
Jimi had his pedals in some sort of different configuration, the Univibe has a lot to do with it, there are a lot of factors, his tuning down a whole step, ect.
We'll never know, same as Van Halen, the important thing is it happened and we saw and heard it...
I saw some You Tube clips before they were yanked by Experience Hendrix, of Randy Hanson nailing BOG tunes, such as Who Knows, machine Gun, with what looked like Marshall 2203's
So what does it prove, I heard Randy pull off many critical aspects of BOG tunes, tonally dead nuts perfect, so how do we explain that??
I seriously having listened to Jimi since 1967, that there are Super Bass heads on BOG, end of story, I have my theories but I can't tell you exact facts,just listening to literally many, many LP complete show bootlegs, and studying Jimi's tone for many years, that just using Super Basses is too easy a answer, and clearly from the West Coast Organ and Music Co. records, they were all Super Leads, JMP's, if the bright caps were removed, ect, and some tone stack mods made, then they could be labeled Super leads but in actuality be Super Basses.
Do You Know? .... I Don't know, do we know, I don't know....
yngwie308

[toner]

...We'll never know, same as Van Halen, the important thing is it happened and we saw and heard it...

+1000

There are WAY too many variables to really know for certain how or why specific recordings sound the way they do, especially live. There's nothing wrong with seeking those tones but there isn't a simple, definitive answer.

Think about all of the variables: guitar wood, pickups, pedals, amp, amp mods, speaker cabs, speakers, mic type and placement, mic pre's, bleed from other stage mics, phase cancellation, FOH mix, recording mix and mastering, location acoustics, humidity, barometric pressure, blah blah F'ing blah.............

[Bluesgeetar]

Hendrix, of Randy Hanson nailing BOG tunes, such as Who Knows, machine Gun, with what looked like Marshall 2203's
So what does it prove, I heard Randy pull off many critical aspects of BOG tunes, tonally dead nuts perfect, so how do we explain that??
I seriously having listened to Jimi since 1967, that there are Super Bass heads on BOG, end of story, I have my theories but I can't tell you exact facts,just listening to literally many, many LP complete show bootlegs, and studying Jimi's tone for many years, that just using Super Basses is too easy a answer, and clearly from the West Coast Organ and Music Co. records, they were all Super Leads, JMP's, if the bright caps were removed, ect, and some tone stack mods made, then they could be labeled Super leads but in actuality be Super Basses.
Do You Know? .... I Don't know, do we know, I don't know....
yngwie308

Well my friend who works on Randys amps said it was a 70s something amp that is Randys main amp. It currently has MM trannys on it. He replaced them maybe 5 years ago I'm thinking. Anyway. The new snippit tool on vista is abou the only cool thing about vista. SO I used it to cut put Randy doing his studio tracks for the 79 Apocalypse now tracks. I can see when watching that the switch is a square reddish job. It didn't come out that good in the pic though. If you really want to see it then go buy the collectors edition of the movie. From what I can see on the movie where it is more clear, I'm betting the bank that it is the legendary 77' 78' 2203. Anyway here is the best I can do:

[Bluesgeetar]

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[Bluesgeetar]

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[basile865]

i havent heard his stuff but it looks like a late 70's jmp, i work at guitar center and we have a 78 that is identical looking to that, even though the tone still isnt anything close to hendrix's bog tone. Im suprised more people think it was a super lead than a super bass. Anyways thanks for the input guys, keep me posted on any new finds

[yngwie308]

Looks like an Echoplex on top of the amp as well ?
Where are the clips of Randy's BOG tunes, even on his website no mention of them??
yngwie308

[Hendrixnut07]

All I could find was this clip of Who Knows, there used to be a better quality who knows clip from Germany. That same show Randy says '' Legalize marijuana '' and busts into Dear Prudence after Are You Experienced? but I guess Janie & Co pulled it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CwyDNNrPk0A

My vote goes for the Superbass. I can get that tone on Randy's clip with my SB and Menatone KOTB.

[Freedom]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CwyDNNrPk0A

My vote goes for the Superbass.

Oooooooooooooh yeah baby!!!

THATS the sound!!!!

[Tone Slinger]

I also think Hendrix must have by chance plugged into one of Cox's NEW super bass amps, and liked it during Dec. or so in '69. He obviously was getting a rounder sound with a bit more headroom, all attributes of a Super Bass. The Baggy's rehearsal also has this sound. I think ultimatly that Hendrix went back to the Super Leads shortly thereafter due to the more cutting tone he could get with them, I guess the Super Leads possibly 'threw' the sound more outdoors or something. Also, all the late 60's strats that I've played, as well as 70's, all have moderatly weak pick-ups. This would be a big plus when playing through a Super Bass, as the low end wouldnt get out of hand and wobble too much.

[gnugear]

I love that tone and have no clue what he used, but I would guess superlead with a mile of cords through a tone sucking univibe. I think that would produce a nice rolled off high end.

[45auto]

Do You Know? .... I Don't know, do we know, I don't know....

sums it up rather nicely!

[Bluesgeetar]

That guitar is a big part of it. 68 strats had weak pickups and a super thin neck neck with the large headstock. I think 68, 69 were the only years these super thin necks appeared. Using the FF as a boost helps. I've talked to RM via email and he says he never sent Hendrix out with any NKT275 loaded FF. He said the Germanium ones were all AC128. A visit to the EMP here in Seattle is worthless! You'd think with all that money that rich azzhole Paul Allen spent on the EMP he would have made a decent Hendrix exhibit. It is sad. Really sad. The man should be ashamed.


No I am afraid I don't remember the exact details as I wasn't
particularly interested in the Marshalls as I concentrated on the pedal
set up and guitars. We didn't modify anything to the Marshalls then only
tried to stop them blowing up by changing tubes and making sure
resistors weren't overheating too much by imbalance in the tubes as they
ran very hot.
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Kindest regards,
Roger Mayer
www.roger-mayer.co.uk
"experience the difference"

[Hendrixnut07]

A visit to the EMP here in Seattle is worthless! You'd think with all that money that rich azzhole Paul Allen spent on the EMP he would have made a decent Hendrix exhibit. It is sad. Really sad. The man should be ashamed.

I went there and didnt use the headphones because I knew everything about Jimi's gear already. I'd like to go back someday I had fun in Seattle, while I was there I visited Jimi's grave in Renton,Wa.