Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
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Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
My question is that when Jimi is playing live and uses the wah for a cleaner sounding solo, does he turn off his fuzz? or just roll back on the guitar volume?
I ask because when I have my fuzz on and roll back my guitar volume to clean it up, turning on the wah will give me a ton of noise.. lots of hissing sounds.
I ask because when I have my fuzz on and roll back my guitar volume to clean it up, turning on the wah will give me a ton of noise.. lots of hissing sounds.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
Try the alternate wah <---> fuzz connection, use a dmmy coil or a Suhr BPSSC - BPSSC "Back Plate Silent Single Coil" from John Suhr WILL eliminate all 60 cycle hum from your Strat.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
I'll try alternating the pedals, although I don't think Jimi did this. Also I'm not sure if its the hum.. rather when turning on the wah with the volume backed off, it is getting the full noise of the fuzz pedal.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
does your wah/fuzz works fine with the wah in front of it ? didn't you mod it a little, to adjust the impédances ?
normaly, it doesn't work without it modded, bringing a lot of noise, with no effect of the wah and some wiiiii !!!!!!!!!
i suppose that jimi did both, playing with the volume of his strat, and sometimes just hitting the fuzz off.
his amp not set to the max.
normaly, it doesn't work without it modded, bringing a lot of noise, with no effect of the wah and some wiiiii !!!!!!!!!
i suppose that jimi did both, playing with the volume of his strat, and sometimes just hitting the fuzz off.
his amp not set to the max.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
Don't kid yourself, Jimi ran his pedals every way possible under the sun. I've seen a pic of him using two wahs with a fuzz box in the middle.theactor19 wrote:I'll try alternating the pedals, although I don't think Jimi did this.
Try this out for your wah, and you won't be disappointed. I installed one in my Buddah Wah (easy peasy japanesey) so that it would perform better when using a fuzz pedal with the wah. Sorry I forgot to tell you this but this is a fairly common problem when using a wah and a fuzz pedal together (buffering) which some wahs do not have.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
the cheap way to do this, and simple, is just to add a 250k pot in the input of your fuzz signal, wired just like a strat vol pot. you can then use a wah in front of it, by adjusting this input bias controler down a little, keeping mostly all the fuzz effect you want. Now you can play "changes" wah, wild Voodoo child wah .... and when you'll get your strat vol down a bit, you'll get a cleaner tone. to me this is evident that roger mayer did it to jimi's fuzz, maybe just with a little trimmer Inside of them.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
Tried your switching position positions... Fuzz then Wah.. which did work to get rid of the noise, however, the wah effect sounded different then when it was first in the chain. When fuzz is full up and wah on, it becomes very thin sounding.Lefty Lou wrote:Don't kid yourself, Jimi ran his pedals every way possible under the sun. I've seen a pic of him using two wahs with a fuzz box in the middle.theactor19 wrote:I'll try alternating the pedals, although I don't think Jimi did this.
Try this out for your wah, and you won't be disappointed. I installed one in my Buddah Wah (easy peasy japanesey) so that it would perform better when using a fuzz pedal with the wah. Sorry I forgot to tell you this but this is a fairly common problem when using a wah and a fuzz pedal together (buffering) which some wahs do not have.
http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/FWR.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As for the retrofit, I have a Teese Picture Wah which is fuzz friendly.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
I'm not at all a techy guy, and would not have the slightly clue on how to do this.Xplorer wrote:the cheap way to do this, and simple, is just to add a 250k pot in the input of your fuzz signal, wired just like a strat vol pot. you can then use a wah in front of it, by adjusting this input bias controler down a little, keeping mostly all the fuzz effect you want. Now you can play "changes" wah, wild Voodoo child wah .... and when you'll get your strat vol down a bit, you'll get a cleaner tone. to me this is evident that roger mayer did it to jimi's fuzz, maybe just with a little trimmer Inside of them.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
Try NOT running your fuzz flat out and see how a clean boost will work in conjunction with the other two pedals.theactor19 wrote:Tried your switching position positions... Fuzz then Wah.. which did work to get rid of the noise, however, the wah effect sounded different then when it was first in the chain. When fuzz is full up and wah on, it becomes very thin sounding.Lefty Lou wrote:Don't kid yourself, Jimi ran his pedals every way possible under the sun. I've seen a pic of him using two wahs with a fuzz box in the middle.theactor19 wrote:I'll try alternating the pedals, although I don't think Jimi did this.
Try this out for your wah, and you won't be disappointed. I installed one in my Buddah Wah (easy peasy japanesey) so that it would perform better when using a fuzz pedal with the wah. Sorry I forgot to tell you this but this is a fairly common problem when using a wah and a fuzz pedal together (buffering) which some wahs do not have.
http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/FWR.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As for the retrofit, I have a Teese Picture Wah which is fuzz friendly.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
I don't really see the point in this as I want it to work with my fuzz in the way Jimi's did. The whole reason I'm getting the noise is because the fuzz is turned up in the first place.Lefty Lou wrote: Try NOT running your fuzz flat out and see how a clean boost will work in conjunction with the other two pedals.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
Again BUFFERING is the word. Did you read this part of the link I attached?theactor19 wrote:I don't really see the point in this as I want it to work with my fuzz in the way Jimi's did. The whole reason I'm getting the noise is because the fuzz is turned up in the first place.Lefty Lou wrote: Try NOT running your fuzz flat out and see how a clean boost will work in conjunction with the other two pedals.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
Buffering or impedance marching are the word. No need for such advanced tool, just a little trimmer or pot in the input of your fuzz will do.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
impedance marching? Why hell, if it's that simple you need to let "theactor19" in on your secret sauce.Xplorer wrote:Buffering or impedance marching are the word. No need for such advanced tool, just a little trimmer or pot in the input of your fuzz will do.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
sorry, "matching", i typed quickly.
well, it's not a secret, and i told it already before, maybe i wasn't read ?
it requires only a 250k pot ( works well with this value ) . i had it from Joe Gagan.
wire it just like a strat volume, on the input signal of your fuzz, that's all.
well, it's not a secret, and i told it already before, maybe i wasn't read ?
it requires only a 250k pot ( works well with this value ) . i had it from Joe Gagan.
wire it just like a strat volume, on the input signal of your fuzz, that's all.
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Re: Did Jimi use his Wah for quiet parts without a fuzz?
See, it's all your fault Xplorer, you could have saved me $45 lolXplorer wrote:sorry, "matching", i typed quickly.
well, it's not a secret, and i told it already before, maybe i wasn't read ?
it requires only a 250k pot ( works well with this value ) . i had it from Joe Gagan.
wire it just like a strat volume, on the input signal of your fuzz, that's all.