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Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:05 pm
by vanhalen5150
Yup, PT gets a bit warm so far. Could be resisdual from V7. I can smell glue or epoxy as well.

Kraft Dinner indeed!

Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:25 pm
by vanhalen5150
Pretty quiet, some background noise though. Crappy wall voltage I suspect as all my amps have it. Larry Ground is definitely the way to go.

I'll move the wall ground to the side of the chassis away from the PI bolt and maybe move #5 lug further from the PT.

Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:21 am
by vanhalen5150
$25.00 worth of parts from Home Depot. Put the chassis bolts about 1/4 the way down from the top. Added some cheap aluminum flashing to the wood base with some staples. The handles make it easy to carry back to the bench, and it just slides off pretty easy when you bring the bolts up. Easier than sliding in and out of a chassis for now.

Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:23 am
by vanhalen5150
Anyone know where George got his headbox's. Mojo? Are they pretty decent?

Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:44 am
by Roe
used to be mojo, yes. havent heard that he changed supplier

Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:52 am
by vanhalen5150
Roe wrote:used to be mojo, yes. havent heard that he changed supplier
Ok, no I don't think he did. The quality of those is pretty stellar.

Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:19 pm
by Strat78
That carrying thing is cool. Mojo head boxes are really great and built exactly like the original ones. George's head boxes seem to be in style of the 60's head boxes. The shelf where the controls are is flat instead of rounded.

Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:39 pm
by emmjaydubya
Strat78 wrote: This thread will be a huge help for all those guys with 12series chassis being used as book ends. Come guys, where are the builds?
Haha, totally true. Well mine is actually a doorstop right now, not a bookend, but I'm slowly saving up for some CMerren iron. This thread and yours, Strat78, are awesome, among several others. Great guides for building a bitch'n plexi, and I thank you all. I'll post up a thread with pics and clips, but it will be a while.

Nice work, all you guys!

Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:15 am
by vanhalen5150
emmjaydubya wrote:
Strat78 wrote: This thread will be a huge help for all those guys with 12series chassis being used as book ends. Come guys, where are the builds?
Haha, totally true. Well mine is actually a doorstop right now, not a bookend, but I'm slowly saving up for some CMerren iron. This thread and yours, Strat78, are awesome, among several others. Great guides for building a bitch'n plexi, and I thank you all. I'll post up a thread with pics and clips, but it will be a while.

Nice work, all you guys!
Definately start a thread when your ready, you'll save some major headaches by listening to our mistakes we've made. Those C.M trannies are worth the extra cash if you ask me.

Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:18 pm
by emmjaydubya
Yeah, between you, Strat 78, and Ralle, I'm sold on the CM iron. I'll pay it, whatever it costs as long as he'll sell it to me. And all the R & D you guys have done is priceless, believe me. Whether or not Ed's output really was a -132 or not during that era, isn't something I'm worried about. I'm sold on what I've HEARD on this forum, not necessarily what everyone is speculating. Don't get me wrong, the speculation is fascinating, and reading everyone's informed opinion is like a mystery novel that never ends, but stays interesting none the less. That's why I come here, just to see what the latest revelation is, here in the 12,000 forum or in the VH forum, it's just fun.

Bottom line is, I'm not Ed and don't want to be, even though I love the guy. Hell I play in a candy-ass, loud, echo-ey pop band. I've had a few plexi 100-watters in the past. But I want to know what it feels like to rage on a beast like this. And I will, thanks to you guys and your hard work. Someday soon...

Anyway, back to your cool thread.

Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:08 pm
by vanhalen5150
If you don't have an airplane hanger to play in, you will need a good attenuator. These amps are not for everyone either. My buds that grew up on the high gain MV amps of today absolutely love the sound I get with a 12000. They give it a try and fall flat on their faces trying to control what's coming out of the speaker. Bottom line is it's an instrument within itself and it takes a lot of practice to make it sound like it should. I've been playing one for over a year, and it's still a big challenge.
Fact is, most people have never played with full power tubes being overdriven within the tone. Thinking a MV amp is the same as attenuated amp is a big misconception.

I had a POD Line 6. I traded it for a few quads of power tubes. 8)

Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:15 pm
by vanhalen5150
PT has lots of sag. Light indicator dims with a well struck note.

Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:34 am
by emmjaydubya
I hear you on the challenge of taming something like this, that's what is so intriguing. The danger. I wonder if I'll feel like a kid again when it's cranked up? The possibilities seem endless.

Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:15 am
by vanhalen5150
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Re: 12002: 2" OT

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:34 am
by axeman
When can we hear it? How much were the tranies?