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First 12 series build

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:54 am
by Lbrown3743
Starting my first 12 series build. Got most everything from valve storm. Got the heater wires done. Waiting on transformers from ****** audio. May need some guidance.

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:48 am
by Strat78
Good to see a new build taking shape! :D At this point you should consider using the Larry ground scheme. You will need to drill five holes in the chassis and use the medium size brass bolts with two solder lugs each. Lots more info if you poke around in this section before going forward with that. Pretty sure Chris's PT has the 100v tap for Japan. Maybe consider not doing the mod5 and getting an Alex attenuator or at least the Lar/Mar without cascading the preamp. It's always nice to hear a 12series in it's pure form! 8)

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:35 pm
by Tone Slinger
Strat78 wrote:Good to see a new build taking shape! :D At this point you should consider using the Larry ground scheme. You will need to drill five holes in the chassis and use the medium size brass bolts with two solder lugs each. Lots more info if you poke around in this section before going forward with that. Pretty sure Chris's PT has the 100v tap for Japan. Maybe consider not doing the mod5 and getting an Alex attenuator or at least the Lar/Mar without cascading the preamp. It's always nice to hear a 12series in it's pure form! 8)
I second All of the above :thumbsup:

The Larry ground scheme is something I'm gonna try on my up and coming build. A 12xxx ESPECIALLY seems to be hummy/noisy when you crank it(with factory busswire/pot grounds), so this Larry/Star grounding scheme is gonna be great when slamming it (vol. on 10) into an attenuator or load/reamp type scenario.

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:27 pm
by Lbrown3743
Its going to stock, atleast for a while. I cant wait to get this thing going. Hopefully I will get the transformers today.

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:58 am
by Lbrown3743
Just arrived. Looks like I need some mount hardware for the PT. Any one have a wiring diagram for M E R R E N audio?

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:49 am
by Strat78
The T2562 PT wire color codes...
PRIMARY:
ORANGE = common nuetral
WHITE/red = 100V Japan...
RED= 120V
BROWN= 220V
BLUE = 230V
PURPLE = 240V

SECONDARY:
Black & Blue= High Voltage to diodes or stand-by....
Yellow = High Voltage Center-Tap....connect between first group of caps...
Thick BLACK wire = Heaters
Green wires go to ground...
White = bias

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:00 am
by Lbrown3743
Thanks Strat78. Im thinking that the OT is the same as other brand OTs.

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:41 am
by Strat78
Edit, I think this is correct, but I would double check with Chris:
Wire hook-ups for M e r r e ' 1998
PRIMARY:
WHITE= Center-Tap (goes to the B+)
RED= plates (pin#3 for V4 and V5)
BROWN= plates (pin#3 for V6 and V7)


SECONDARY:
brown= GROUND
black= 4 Ohms
yellow= 8 Ohms
green= 16 Ohms

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:57 pm
by Lbrown3743
I shot him an email last night. Hopefully i will here back soon. Should have them mounted after work today then start wiring them up.

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:01 pm
by rgorke
So, by using the 100v tap on the PT, what does that give one on the plates? around 400v and what about the heaters? Would it still be at 3.15v or so?

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:39 am
by Lbrown3743
Ill let you know when i get it up and running. Having a 100 volt tap is one reason i went with m e r r e n. Great when living in Japan.

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:46 am
by Omn
Great choice; M e r r e n and 12 000!

Lar/Mar has done me good for years. Prefer it to the Ultimate attentuator...

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:35 am
by Lbrown3743
I have lar/mars in every one of my marshalls. They are awesome. Im going to try the thd hotplate for a while with this amp.

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:45 am
by Lbrown3743
Got the trannies mounted in. Took the middle screws out of the PT and put screws in the corners so i could mount it in the chassis without drilling new holes. Finding things like simple mounting hardware over here is akways an adventure. Its starting to look like a 12 series now. Hopefully ill hear back from Chris to make sure i wire them up correctly.

Re: First 12 series build

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:07 am
by Strat78
Before you wire the OT, measure the resistance between the primary center tap (white) and the brown and then the red wire. It should be around 16ohms for the brown wire and 17 for the red.