I've decided to try to chase down the WOF live tones of spoonful and crossroads...
after trawling forums and so forth i've come to the conclusion that it was the fool SG, and
i'm guessing (but not sure) that it was probably a 67 super (or 2) with EL34's...
what are the thoughts of folks around these parts...
the only person i've ever heard get close is eric johnson in this clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONpAo3PCX9c
he sorta loses it in the middle a bit, but the first few phrases are pure cream...
i'm really after as specific information here so i can make a purchase that i'll
be completely happy with...
cheers folks!!
Luke.
will a 10,000 series get me WOF live tones?
Moderator: VelvetGeorge
-
coolhand78
- Senior Member
- Posts: 50
- Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:21 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 7
will a 10,000 series get me WOF live tones?
Last edited by coolhand78 on Mon May 30, 2011 8:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
shakti
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2053
- Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:06 am
- Just the numbers in order: 7
- Location: Ramnes, Norway
Re: will a 10,000 series get me WOF live tones?
My recommendation:
10 series 100-watter with
- Drake-style OT (1202-119 or 1202-132 clone)
- 1203-80 PT with the later style rectification (probably not the dual rectifier type, although I may be wrong about that)
- 2x100uF + 2x32uF filter cap arrangement.
- Standard JTM45-style (aka "bass") preamp but with a dual 32uF with extra 10k voltage drop resistor between the two filter sections.
- Possibly also 8.2k+10k voltage drop resistor earlier in the B+ line, rather than the single 8.2k or 10k one found in the earlier amps. That last bit is also pure guesswork.
10 series 100-watter with
- Drake-style OT (1202-119 or 1202-132 clone)
- 1203-80 PT with the later style rectification (probably not the dual rectifier type, although I may be wrong about that)
- 2x100uF + 2x32uF filter cap arrangement.
- Standard JTM45-style (aka "bass") preamp but with a dual 32uF with extra 10k voltage drop resistor between the two filter sections.
- Possibly also 8.2k+10k voltage drop resistor earlier in the B+ line, rather than the single 8.2k or 10k one found in the earlier amps. That last bit is also pure guesswork.
JTM45 RS OT, 1973 18W, JTM45/100, JTM50, JMP50 1986, JMP100 "West Coast", AC15, AC30, BF Super Reverb, Boogie Mk 1, Hiwatt CP103, DR103
-
coolhand78
- Senior Member
- Posts: 50
- Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:21 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 7
Re: will a 10,000 series get me WOF live tones?
some advice i got from another forum was to lower the screens filtering from 50uf to 16uf and get mullards and brimars.
what are your thoughts on this?
thanks heaps for your help!! its much appreciated
what are your thoughts on this?
thanks heaps for your help!! its much appreciated
-
Roe
- Senior Member
- Posts: 5054
- Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:36 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 7
- Location: Drontheim. Norwegen
- Contact:
Re: will a 10,000 series get me WOF live tones?
I agree with shakti! I'm not shure about mixer resistor (270k or 470k) and NFB (27k or 47k), although I guess the former
http://www.myspace.com/20bonesband" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myspace.com/prostitutes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Super 100 amps: 1202-119 & 1202-84
JTM45 RS OT JTM50 JMP50 1959/2203/34/39
http://www.myspace.com/prostitutes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Super 100 amps: 1202-119 & 1202-84
JTM45 RS OT JTM50 JMP50 1959/2203/34/39
-
coolhand78
- Senior Member
- Posts: 50
- Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:21 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 7
Re: will a 10,000 series get me WOF live tones?
wasn't it you Roe that I quoted from the post on TGP about the filtering values?Roe wrote:I agree with shakti! I'm not shure about mixer resistor (270k or 470k) and NFB (27k or 47k), although I guess the former
-
Roe
- Senior Member
- Posts: 5054
- Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:36 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 7
- Location: Drontheim. Norwegen
- Contact:
Re: will a 10,000 series get me WOF live tones?
yes it was 
http://www.myspace.com/20bonesband" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myspace.com/prostitutes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Super 100 amps: 1202-119 & 1202-84
JTM45 RS OT JTM50 JMP50 1959/2203/34/39
http://www.myspace.com/prostitutes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Super 100 amps: 1202-119 & 1202-84
JTM45 RS OT JTM50 JMP50 1959/2203/34/39
-
coolhand78
- Senior Member
- Posts: 50
- Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:21 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 7
Re: will a 10,000 series get me WOF live tones?
so in your opinion if i follow all the above, i should be well in the ball park
for the "Spoonful" from Wheels of Fire Live ball park?
what speakers would you guys recommend?
for the "Spoonful" from Wheels of Fire Live ball park?
what speakers would you guys recommend?
-
Roe
- Senior Member
- Posts: 5054
- Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:36 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 7
- Location: Drontheim. Norwegen
- Contact:
Re: will a 10,000 series get me WOF live tones?
g12m 20w paper cone, if you can find any
http://www.myspace.com/20bonesband" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myspace.com/prostitutes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Super 100 amps: 1202-119 & 1202-84
JTM45 RS OT JTM50 JMP50 1959/2203/34/39
http://www.myspace.com/prostitutes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Super 100 amps: 1202-119 & 1202-84
JTM45 RS OT JTM50 JMP50 1959/2203/34/39