Evolution of Ed's neck profiles

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Re: Evolution of Ed's neck profiles

Post by rdodson » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:28 am

vanhalen5150 wrote:
Rich_D wrote:
vanhalen5150 wrote:Some of Hendrix's guitars look like they where refreted with huge jumbo's, radiused down in the middle and then recrowned.
I just got what you're saying. You think he had his necks shaved up higher for bending, sort of like a compound radius? Obviously Hendrix doesn't fret out even on a 2 1/2 step bend. Should this have been impossible with a stock strat of that era?
No, the necks were not shaved down. The frets were in the middle. You can add jumbo frets up higher. File down the middle and then recrown them to simulate a compound radius. The neck itself still stays the same.
This is how Eric Johnson used to do his old strats (I'm told) so that he didn't have to plane vintage necks.
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Re: Evolution of Ed's neck profiles

Post by rdodson » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:35 am

I'd say 5'8". Probably more like 165 now. :-)

Back to the EBMM...if anyone has played a B or C series Kramer with the beak headstock then you know that the EBMM was digitized from this. It is a 1 5/8ths nut with a big C profile worn down on the treble side.
Brad737 wrote:I met VH in Toronto several years ago. Ed's a qqlittle guy...5'5" or 5'6" and maybe 150 lbs. I was really surprised when we shook hands, because his gorilla-sized mitt enveloped my hand. By comparison, Michael Anthony's hands were tiny.

vanhalen5150 wrote:I thought Ed's hand size was pretty average. He's a smaller guy, maybe they just look that way. On the neck they don't seem to be outside of average to me. Steve Vai on the other hand...total freak of nature.

Satriani...totally average. When he plays you just think they must be big.

One of the forum members here a few years ago put his hands over Ed's sidewalk cement impression. Who was that? They were surprised at how average they were.
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Re: Evolution of Ed's neck profiles

Post by Rich_D » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:46 am

Thanks Ron.
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Re: Evolution of Ed's neck profiles

Post by Santino » Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:21 am

rdodson wrote:I'd say 5'8". Probably more like 165 now. :-)

Back to the EBMM...if anyone has played a B or C series Kramer with the beak headstock then you know that the EBMM was digitized from this. It is a 1 5/8ths nut with a big C profile worn down on the treble side.
Brad737 wrote:I met VH in Toronto several years ago. Ed's a qqlittle guy...5'5" or 5'6" and maybe 150 lbs. I was really surprised when we shook hands, because his gorilla-sized mitt enveloped my hand. By comparison, Michael Anthony's hands were tiny.

vanhalen5150 wrote:I thought Ed's hand size was pretty average. He's a smaller guy, maybe they just look that way. On the neck they don't seem to be outside of average to me. Steve Vai on the other hand...total freak of nature.

Satriani...totally average. When he plays you just think they must be big.

One of the forum members here a few years ago put his hands over Ed's sidewalk cement impression. Who was that? They were surprised at how average they were.
Awesome! Thanks for the neck info. Now I'm really gonna have to try to find a maple beak neck Focus to turn into a Franky! Thought they'd be hard to find. They are. Thinking I'd buy a Franky body and use the neck and hardware from the Kramer.

Did I mention how much I like the EBMM neck? Love it!

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Re: Evolution of Ed's neck profiles

Post by rdodson » Thu Feb 12, 2015 3:53 pm

The Franky had a different type of beak neck on it. 1 3/4" medium C. The regular retail beaks (Kramer Pacers) were MUCH smaller. All had R2 nuts. Then everything changed with the hockey stick necks.
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Re: Evolution of Ed's neck profiles

Post by Rich_D » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:08 pm

Well this certainly clears everything up.

Signed, Totally Confused.

Just kidding. I was hoping to learn how Eddie progressed from the B&W Frankie next to the latest version of his production guitar. I greatly admire the way Eddie never sits on a design or an idea. Still, it's hard to chart the evolution of his preferences such as with necks.
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Re: Evolution of Ed's neck profiles

Post by rdodson » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:43 pm

Well...he changed his preferences I guess. The EBMM guitar was based on the "5150" Kramer which had a neck from a production Kramer Pacer beak neck which they hacked up to be the hockey stick.

So...if you find a B or C series Kramer beak, you are golden. I have 2 at the house.
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Re: Evolution of Ed's neck profiles

Post by Rich_D » Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:45 pm

rdodson wrote:Well...he changed his preferences I guess.
That's the interesting part for me.
rdodson wrote:The EBMM guitar was based on the "5150" Kramer which had a neck from a production Kramer Pacer beak neck which they hacked up to be the hockey stick.

So...if you find a B or C series Kramer beak, you are golden. I have 2 at the house.
Ok cool. That corresponds to that awkward video interview from right after the Kramer deal where he's gushing over the Kramer necks. Thanks for all the posts.
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Re: Evolution of Ed's neck profiles

Post by rdodson » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:48 pm

Check this out re: Kramer Pacer neck => Kramer 5150 hockey stick http://www.kramerforum.com/forum/showth ... o-make-one
Rich_D wrote:
rdodson wrote:Well...he changed his preferences I guess.
That's the interesting part for me.
rdodson wrote:The EBMM guitar was based on the "5150" Kramer which had a neck from a production Kramer Pacer beak neck which they hacked up to be the hockey stick.

So...if you find a B or C series Kramer beak, you are golden. I have 2 at the house.
Ok cool. That corresponds to that awkward video interview from right after the Kramer deal where he's gushing over the Kramer necks. Thanks for all the posts.
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