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by dirtycooter » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:59 am
Well Leotis.....
That was bad ass!!
I think personally you should just get the "editor" for the hall of fame. Give you some serious tweakage control your gonna love.
There will be more "room and ambience" awaiting still if you can get her tweaked with some other parameters.
Whats cool about eruption is its panned center. Not guitar left and ambience right like the rest of the record. So this was perfect.
If you gain a second cab and appropriate options... I think goin w/d is gonna blow your mind.
Left side as you have it and reverb all on the right.... oh.. you will glue everyones eye shut for miles around
Hey.. they don't call me "Dirtycooter" for nothin...
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by garbeaj » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:59 am
Leotis wrote:Well, the Carbon Copy is only kicked on for the dive at the very end. But I do have the Wampler in there trying to mimic the Echoplex. Adjusting the HoF from plate to church and dialing it in made a world of difference.
Just curious if you are able to achieve the complete octave dive with the MXR Carbon Copy? You don't quite make the complete octave in your clip. Since msbonta, vanhalen5150 and myself have been working on the Univox EC-80 A dive (well mostly I've been letting them do all the work!) I'm interested to know if you just needed to tweak the settings a little or if that was the maximum amount of dive that you could get out of the Carbon Copy?
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by Leotis » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:45 am
garbeaj wrote:Leotis wrote:Well, the Carbon Copy is only kicked on for the dive at the very end. But I do have the Wampler in there trying to mimic the Echoplex. Adjusting the HoF from plate to church and dialing it in made a world of difference.
Just curious if you are able to achieve the complete octave dive with the MXR Carbon Copy? You don't quite make the complete octave in your clip. Since msbonta, vanhalen5150 and myself have been working on the Univox EC-80 A dive (well mostly I've been letting them do all the work!) I'm interested to know if you just needed to tweak the settings a little or if that was the maximum amount of dive that you could get out of the Carbon Copy?
No....that was only a little less than half the range of the CC. I kinda half-assed the end dive and cut it early because I wasn't happy with where I kicked the CC on in relation to the phase sweep. Most of the time it's a lot better than that.
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by Leotis » Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:07 pm
dirtycooter wrote:Well Leotis.....
That was bad ass!!
I think personally you should just get the "editor" for the hall of fame. Give you some serious tweakage control your gonna love.
There will be more "room and ambience" awaiting still if you can get her tweaked with some other parameters.
Whats cool about eruption is its panned center. Not guitar left and ambience right like the rest of the record. So this was perfect.
If you gain a second cab and appropriate options... I think goin w/d is gonna blow your mind.
Left side as you have it and reverb all on the right.... oh.. you will glue everyones eye shut for miles around :
Ed n
I'll probably stick with the HoF especially now that the editor is coming out. I sent an email for the link when they pre-release it. Gonna get the Bray LO box and w/d like you mentioned.
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by Leotis » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:04 am
The Bray LO box came in today. Gonna set that up tomorrow and maybe have some wet/dry clips soon if I dig it.
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by Leotis » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:58 am
OooOOOooooooOOOOOOHHHHH MMmmmYYYYYyyyyyyyYYY GGGGGAAAAAAAAWwwwwwwWWWD!!!!!!

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by Leotis » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:58 am
You weren't kidding, DC... wet/dry is the TITS man!

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by dirtycooter » Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:16 pm
Glad your havin fun.
See, if you get all bogged up in wdw land then you have all this panning left and right that just don't fit with vintage VH.
If you goin for that old VH thing you just need dry cab left and wet cab right.
I know every one THINKS full wdw stereo is gonna sound bigger-but thats not the case.
Right now I am doin w/d alone again and its still the best tone all around. But I am usin just delay-no verb in that wet side.
A nice warm tape tone slap at a low level with another louder 300ms delay layered on.
All you hear is -slap 300slap 300slap 300slap.. . . . Just makes me forget verb altogether.
I have this huge boner for the dual digital delay in this Lex MPXG2. It has a unique sound due to the analog limiter you can turn off and on internally-its called "soft sat". It has this THING to it. Like an airiness thats alot like the vid where philx is demoeing the brown eye with the sde3000. And those have analog limiters back then too.
Sounds best out of all my delays I have owned. Now I am daunted with figuring out how to control this thing. Lexicon units are horrible to program!
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by garbeaj » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:38 pm
Next to getting my Marshall modded by Rockstah, the David Bray Line-Out box to my Super Reverb has had the biggest impact on my Van Halen LP tone quest. Best $40 I ever spent.
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by Leotis » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:18 pm
I know man... I was just sitting here thinking "my God... I think my search is OVER."

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by Leotis » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:30 pm
Clips DEFINITELY coming... this sounds
so huge. I just hope that crappy vid cam can capture it.

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by garbeaj » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:41 pm
Leotis wrote:Clips DEFINITELY coming... this sounds
so huge. I just hope that crappy vid cam can capture it.

I'm sure it will, though it is tricky to get the mic to capture just enough of both amps...I'm playing around with my Sennheiser MD-420 and it takes some effort. I still haven't got it quite right yet. Maybe the trick is using one mic on each amp and blending the sound in the mix? But then you could just as easily do the reverb in the studio software and not bother with the W/D setup at all. It sure sounds great in the room though!
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by Leotis » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:51 pm
garbeaj wrote:. It sure sounds great in the room though!
That it does... I'm ecstatic with how good it sounds.
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by Tone Slinger » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:07 am
You guy's have got me VERY interested in this Bray box. I'll have to get one

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by garbeaj » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:15 am
Tone Slinger wrote:You guy's have got me VERY interested in this Bray box. I'll have to get one

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It was Chelsea Constable's clips that sold me on it, especially since she happened to use a Super Reverb as her wet amp with the line-out box. Though she used a digital reverb unit in line and I'm using my built-in spring reverb for right now until I can get a good digital reverb, the sound I'm getting in the room is amazing just as Leotis is experiencing!