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Rockstah Mod 5 No Produced EQ...thoughts?

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:15 pm
by Sean_McFly
Hey guys, so I tried doing a track with absolutely no production magic on the guitar track save for reverb, and then put my standard mastering track in front of it, and yielded some very interesting results! I feel that the tone without any bells and whistles, like track compression, tape saturation, or EQ, really lets the overall sound of the amp shine through. It makes it very open (I also softened my pick attack and picked as close to the pickup as possible) and clear, I think. In fact, to my ears, whatever I did to my tracks and picking sounds as close to Mark's preferred tone for his Mod 5's as I think I'm ever gonna get without a DSD or an ash strat body. Take a listen and let me know what you think as compared to the tones I usually put out. :rockon: :toast: :shred:

https://soundcloud.com/seans-evh-explor ... au-natural

Re: Rockstah Mod 5 No Produced EQ...thoughts?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:28 am
by jape88
I clicked on that to expect the usual (I mean that in a good way), but I was REALLY surprised how close that actually was, it's got most of what I'd want from my set up, if I could get it :lol:
I think the verb is spoiling a lot of clips I hear, either too soaked or not natural? but you've got the verb sounding with the guitar rather than a post feel, nice.

Excellent sample my friend :thumbsup:

Let us know specs and volume please.

Re: Rockstah Mod 5 No Produced EQ...thoughts?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:01 am
by echoplexi1974
Outstanding!!! :thumbsup: Gots to be your best mod5 clip yet without out a doubt!!!

Where are your controls set at for this clip? I think I hear the bright cap giving the tone some nice cut. Usually happens around 6 to 6.5 with a 4700pf cap.

Re: Rockstah Mod 5 No Produced EQ...thoughts?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:11 am
by Sean_McFly
Thanks guys! The reverb has a high pass filter on it and light compression to bring out the presence of the 65ms predelay more. As far as the settings go, they are as follows: Presence: 9.5-10 (I believe it's at 10 even though it looks like 9 because the pot, when dimed, is actually rotated in the chassis to be at full when it appears to be at 9), Bass: 2, Mid: 7.9, Treble: 8.1, JMP Master: 8.5, Preamp Gain: 10 (to get that distorted fizz that my custom '78 usually smooths out at lower gain settings), PPIMV: 1.8-2. Here's a photo for better reference:
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Re: Rockstah Mod 5 No Produced EQ...thoughts?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:13 pm
by JiMB
Sounds great. Mean with good bite but also sweet, easy to listen to. Nice job!

Re: Rockstah Mod 5 No Produced EQ...thoughts?

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:33 pm
by dirtycooter
Wtf is there to think about? It's sounding pretty amazing. I like it. ALOT. :mrgreen:

Re: Rockstah Mod 5 No Produced EQ...thoughts?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:04 pm
by mapat
Man that sounds amazing!

It does sound pretty much exactly like Mark's Mod 5 clips.

He always said that, besides a touch of verb and delay, he didn't do any post processing on his clips.

:rock:

Re: Rockstah Mod 5 No Produced EQ...thoughts?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:06 pm
by Goonies
amazig tone! how did you setup your action and pickup?

I did the mod5 on my 12000 series and always get muddy sound from my guitar, too much lower mid range and lack of top end. Even with the SM57 dead center on cone. I´m using a isobox, maybe this muddy a little bit.

I´m using a charvel sam dimas with seymor duncan 59 PAF. .9 - 42 gauge.

1000pF on preamp.
500pF on mixer with 470K
220k treble master
250pF tonestack
0.68uF and 820omhs first cathode and 10K second.
.0022 bright channel
.022 normal channel.
every other component stock 12000 metroamp.

Re: Rockstah Mod 5 No Produced EQ...thoughts?

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:10 am
by Star*Guitar
Yep.. I think you lucked on to one of the best mod 5's Mark built. No two sound the same. Sure do miss him..

Re: Rockstah Mod 5 No Produced EQ...thoughts?

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:13 pm
by fivecoyote
Sounds woody! = great!

Want :drool:

Re: Rockstah Mod 5 No Produced EQ...thoughts?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:15 pm
by Tone Slinger
Sounded real good Sean. Tone is in the hands and you got the hands for sure :thumbsup:
I think you are right about the actual guitar making a difference. Mark's Divebomb inc. Franky strat was a heavy MF'er. I recall he mentioned it was about 7 lbs, body alone :shock: So thats a very TIGHT/BRIGHT sounding guitar and Mark initially slapped his trusty '59 pu in it and declared it a "Thin" sound. It took a DSD to make Mark like that guitar, so yeah, IF you had a (heavy) ash strat with a DSD in it (also, a reissue Fender 6 screw trem, which is brighter/ tighter sounding than a Gotoh), you would be as close to Marks Mod5 tone as humanly possible.
I think YOUR style is better represented with the Bray Marshall though 8)