mustards: sozo vs tad
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mustards: sozo vs tad
here's what greg germino writes on thegearpage:
FWIW......I have used all three brands of tone caps mentioned. Around fall last year I switched over to using the Sozo's after using the TAD's for about a year or more. Reason......well first hand the TAD .1uf is a 600v cap and larger than the original Phillip's mustard cap @ 400v, where the Sozo's are pretty much exact in size. In truth I experimented with the Sozo's several times and there are several amps of mine out there with these caps in them. May be a surprise for some owner who opens the amp up to see them. Really the only way you know something works and works well is to put the part in question into mutiple production pieces and see what the results are long term. I experimented with the Mallory 150's again, the Sozo's and TAD's for several months and ended up preferring the Sozo's.
There is a big difference in sound between them and the Mallory's, especially revealing with 6L6/KT-66 tube types. Sound differnce between the Sozo and the TAD were similar but I felt the Sozo's did a better job capturing the "old school" crunch vibe associated with the old Marshall amps. The sizing was big factor as well. I am very pleased with them and they have been in use in all builds for over 6 months, perhaps a bit longer.
Great product and glad that John Gaynor has made these available.
And...these are the standard Sozo line I am referring to.
Best to all,
Greg Germino
FWIW......I have used all three brands of tone caps mentioned. Around fall last year I switched over to using the Sozo's after using the TAD's for about a year or more. Reason......well first hand the TAD .1uf is a 600v cap and larger than the original Phillip's mustard cap @ 400v, where the Sozo's are pretty much exact in size. In truth I experimented with the Sozo's several times and there are several amps of mine out there with these caps in them. May be a surprise for some owner who opens the amp up to see them. Really the only way you know something works and works well is to put the part in question into mutiple production pieces and see what the results are long term. I experimented with the Mallory 150's again, the Sozo's and TAD's for several months and ended up preferring the Sozo's.
There is a big difference in sound between them and the Mallory's, especially revealing with 6L6/KT-66 tube types. Sound differnce between the Sozo and the TAD were similar but I felt the Sozo's did a better job capturing the "old school" crunch vibe associated with the old Marshall amps. The sizing was big factor as well. I am very pleased with them and they have been in use in all builds for over 6 months, perhaps a bit longer.
Great product and glad that John Gaynor has made these available.
And...these are the standard Sozo line I am referring to.
Best to all,
Greg Germino
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This you may spare yourself - except you want to make a Marshall or any clone of it to sound 10-15 years youngerBilly Batz wrote:Ive never tried TADs.
Nothin' compares to real Mustards - and the best substitute is the SoZo, even the Standard line is better than anything else available today IME!
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If greg and larry agrees, that prettymuch settles the issue for me. I got a small stock of old mustards, but I dont have many of the 22n left
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i am building a 5E3 tweed at the moment....thought about using sozo's but did not know if they would go over well in the tweed design...most fender caps being rated at 600V or 630V and the sozo's only being rated at 400V -- is there any reason i should NOT try the sozo's on this build? thanks for any feedback.
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I've heard about several 5e3s with sozos
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What's the highest supply voltage in this amp?fatcatefx wrote:...most fender caps being rated at 600V or 630V and the sozo's only being rated at 400V -- is there any reason i should NOT try the sozo's on this build?
Way lower than 400V - right?
What's answering your question
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Ive been using SoZos in Fenders for a while.fatcatefx wrote:i am building a 5E3 tweed at the moment....thought about using sozo's but did not know if they would go over well in the tweed design...most fender caps being rated at 600V or 630V and the sozo's only being rated at 400V -- is there any reason i should NOT try the sozo's on this build? thanks for any feedback.
Just ran across this site .THis guy builds 5e3 clones with sozo caps http://www.celticamps.com/Aislinn.html
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What do you guys think of the MOJO dijons?
I used them in a Fender Reverb Unit build with great results and just tried them in a friend's 1959 reissue and they sounded really good (similar to the lower priced SOZOs but I'd probably still give the nod to SOZO by a small margin). They're MUCH better than the Mallorys which I don't even like at all .
I used them in a Fender Reverb Unit build with great results and just tried them in a friend's 1959 reissue and they sounded really good (similar to the lower priced SOZOs but I'd probably still give the nod to SOZO by a small margin). They're MUCH better than the Mallorys which I don't even like at all .