Got to try a '58 Les Paul today and a...

Wicksy · Post by **Wicksy** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:58 pm

...'66 bluesbreaker through AlNiCo speakers and a Dallas Rangemaster rigged together. Sounded very Beano album-ish

My 2002 Tokai Loverock performed admirably in comparison but it couldnt really compete. I only dared play it for 15 minutes. I was more than a little scared...

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:43 pm

Good on ya Wicksy,I have been following their exploits on Plexi Palace forum and they have been on the hunt for the Beano sound,any clips??
yngwie308

45auto · Post by **45auto** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:32 pm

did y'all hear that '62-3 jtm45 over there? it sounded pretty nice. neat relic.

Wicksy · Post by **Wicksy** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:03 pm

I wanted to get some pics and a little movie of the gear/playing but to be honest, i was so over whelmed by gear i couldnt think straight.

The tone was close though, real close. I now believe it was that exact combo that got EC his tone during his tenure with the Bluesbreakers. As Parkhead suggests, i also believe he carried on using a treble booster during Cream. I played Sunshine of Your Love using the same rig and that too was damn close to the live tone. It does show that you need the guitar/amp/speaker combination to do it.

If i get the chance to go down there again, i'll definitely get some pictures.

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:38 pm

Lots of the Cream stuff just has to have something for a boost on it (at least in the studio) because the tones are just too fuzzy and mid-centered to be just a cranked Marshall. (Not saying they're not great tones, just fuzzy and mid-centered....so no flaming, OK?)

I still remember my buddy's dad's '59 ES-335.....even through a mid-70's 2204 the tones were bright in a sweet chimey kind of way, never harsh; and the neck pickup had that rich but crystal clear tone that seems near impossible to get anymore. I could have ripped him off on that guitar big time if I hadn't told him what it was and that it was worth a ton of cash, but I'd have felt pretty shitty about it later.

Wicksy · Post by **Wicksy** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:19 pm

Flames1950 wrote:Lots of the Cream stuff just has to have something for a boost on it (at least in the studio) because the tones are just too fuzzy and mid-centered to be just a cranked Marshall. (Not saying they're not great tones, just fuzzy and mid-centered....so no flaming, OK?)

I still remember my buddy's dad's '59 ES-335.....even through a mid-70's 2204 the tones were bright in a sweet chimey kind of way, never harsh; and the neck pickup had that rich but crystal clear tone that seems near impossible to get anymore. I could have ripped him off on that guitar big time if I hadn't told him what it was and that it was worth a ton of cash, but I'd have felt pretty shitty about it later.

I agree. One of the major difference between my Tokai and Paul's '58 Lester was the clarity and definition. I hear the term "3D" thrown around a lot but now i know. It just has that extra bit of mojo and i now know why they command those prices.