Quitting smoking SUCKS!!!!!!

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Post by NY Chief » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:10 pm

rockstah wrote:no shit Chief? how would i find something like this?
Well I guess I should have said "he told us NOT to smoke on the way home and give him the benefit"... :? I was driving home saying to myself, more BS I wanna smoke but I kept driving past all the 7-11's and gas stations. He made us throw away our cigs, lighters, etc at intermission saying you won't them anymore. You had to see the mass hysteria of people throwing away there vices.

I wish I could remember his name Mark. I thought it was Dr Steven Scott but I can't find anything on a Google search. It was pretty wild. I had just moved to CA, been smoking for 10 years or so. Became buddies with a guy in the apartment complex from Michigan who smoked for 20 years. He came over one day and said his girlfriend bought him a $40 group hypnosis seminar at a local hotel. He figured WTF? He came over the next morning and said "Dude, I don't smoke anymore". I called him on it and he swore to it. Turned out the Doc was doing another session the next weekend so I went and that was it. I'm sure there's plenty other out there but you do have wanna quit too I think. Even when I hit the bars and started drinking (and other not good stuff) I never had an urge.

If I can dig up any info I'll let ya know.

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Post by chubs » Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:28 pm

I quit 6 years ago....was the hardest thing I ever did in my life... It's also the thing I am most proud of...

I feel that nicotine is so addictive that willpower alone is not enough to win the fight... it's like it's too powerfull for a mortal the beat...

I used Zyban... and it must have helped... I was taking the pills and had past my quit date....and kept taking the pills... until I was 2 months past the date... May 7th 2001. I didn't sleep a wink all night just thinking about it... next day I called in sick... didn't smoke and returned the following day... was like I was in a bad dream.... or greaving...

Anyways... at 10$ a pack here in Canada... would cost me $300 a month to smoke as much as I did 6 yeas ago... I rather put that on my mortgage....

Don't give up man... You will see clearly after a while and realise that you are being tricked by the nicotine in thinking you like or need to smoke...

I never think about it... Even when in a bar... or whatever... and when you play a gig and you get home and don't smell like an ashtray (smoking in banned in bars and restaurants here in Ontario and Quebec) it's nice.

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Post by tonejones » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:58 am

Don't give up man... You will see clearly after a while and realise that you are being tricked by the nicotine in thinking you like or need to smoke...
No doubt!!!!!

This is my second time quitting...I quit for about 18 months before using Zyban/Wellbutrin, then started back not long after diving into Grad school.

I am using Chantix, and it does help.

One thing stated at the Chantix website (it's soooo simple) that I wish I had known years ago is that the craving to smoke a cig usually goes away in about 5 min.

I tested this out next time I smoked.......and I'll be damned!!!!!! :D
Let's get going, 'cause there's too much music, too little time!!!!

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Post by Bad Kitty » Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:23 pm

I quit February 13th of this year. I found the perfect way to quit smoking.
Sitting across the table from a doctor that's telling you you have lung cancer.
Then spending three weeks in the hospital while they take out half of one lung. Then getting pnumonia and a few other complications and damn near dying twice from said complications.
I'm cancer free as of now. They tell me that your not considered a cancer survivor until after five years of negitive tests.
Everytime I crave a smoke (and believe it or not I still do) I give myself a shot in the rib cage that's still sore and will continue to be for about seven more months.
I'm one of the lucky ones. There aren't any pain receptors in the lungs so by the time you start showing symptoms you might as well by a plot and make out your will. I had a 3 cm adenocarcinoma on the lower left lobe. It was found during a chest x-ray for a kidney stone. If they had looked any sooner they might have missed it, any later and it probably would have spread to the lymph nodes. As it was I didn't need chemo or radiation. Just a very invasive and painful surgery. Like I said I'm VERY LUCKY.
Next time you feel like a cig just think about your loved ones having to watch you die very slowly and painfully and then going to your funeral.

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Post by NY Chief » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:02 pm

The hypnotist I went to wasn
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Post by Leader » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:37 pm

Bad Kitty wrote:I quit February 13th of this year. I found the perfect way to quit smoking.
Sitting across the table from a doctor that's telling you you have lung cancer.
Then spending three weeks in the hospital while they take out half of one lung. Then getting pnumonia and a few other complications and damn near dying twice from said complications.
I'm cancer free as of now. They tell me that your not considered a cancer survivor until after five years of negitive tests.
Everytime I crave a smoke (and believe it or not I still do) I give myself a shot in the rib cage that's still sore and will continue to be for about seven more months.
I'm one of the lucky ones. There aren't any pain receptors in the lungs so by the time you start showing symptoms you might as well by a plot and make out your will. I had a 3 cm adenocarcinoma on the lower left lobe. It was found during a chest x-ray for a kidney stone. If they had looked any sooner they might have missed it, any later and it probably would have spread to the lymph nodes. As it was I didn't need chemo or radiation. Just a very invasive and painful surgery. Like I said I'm VERY LUCKY.
Next time you feel like a cig just think about your loved ones having to watch you die very slowly and painfully and then going to your funeral.

Mike
I quit using a similar method, severe heart attack at 34 years old. Sounds like we're both lucky. It was very effective for me.

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Post by tonejones » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:11 pm

Leader, Bad Kitty, all I can say is Damn!!!!

You guys have been thru the ringer & came out the other side still swinging (haymakers even)!!!!

I listen to stories from guys like you and it makes me feel like I did when I was in the hospital at 16. I had to have a leg re-broken (femur) and legnthened 3 inches, and it did hurt like a bitch!!!

Meanwhile I look around in the ward of this children's hospital I'm in and see all these kids who will never walk again (or have never walked) or have burns over 50% of their body and see how cheerful and upbeat they are, and how glad they are just to be alive.....

Made me feel damn small when I had the notion to gripe about the relatively little bit of pain I was going thru by comparison.......

Thanks guys, I needed that (internal qwit-chyer-bitchin' switch now engaged) :wink: :mrgreen:
Let's get going, 'cause there's too much music, too little time!!!!

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Post by Leader » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:49 am

I don't like to preach or sound righteous but....


If you don't quit smoking it will kill you. If lung cancer, mouth cancer, toung cancer throat cancer or the many other types of cancers don't suck the life out of you then the heart attack you will have will. It's not "if" it will happen it's "when". Consider your self lucky if you go through what bad kitty and myself have gone through.
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Cigarette smoke contains over 4,800 chemicals, 69 of which are known to cause cancer. Smoking is directly responsible for approximately 90 percent of lung cancer deaths and approximately 80-90 percent of COPD (emphysema and chronic bronchitis) deaths.2
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About 8.6 million people in the U.S. have at least one serious illness caused by smoking. That means that for every person who dies of a smoking-related disease, there are 20 more people who suffer from at least one serious illness associated with smoking.3
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Among current smokers, chronic lung disease accounts for 73 percent of smoking-related conditions. Even among smokers who have quit chronic lung disease accounts for 50 percent of smoking-related conditions.4
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Smoking is also a major factor in coronary heart disease and stroke; may be causally related to malignancies in other parts of the body; and has been linked to a variety of other conditions and disorders, including slowed healing of wounds, infertility, and peptic ulcer disease. For the first time, the Surgeon General includes pneumonia in the list of diseases caused by smoking.5
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Smoking in pregnancy accounts for an estimated 20 to 30 percent of low-birth weight babies, up to 14 percent of preterm deliveries, and some 10 percent of all infant deaths. Even apparently healthy, full-term babies of smokers have been found to be born with narrowed airways and curtailed lung function.6
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Only about 30 percent of women who smoke stop smoking when they find out they are pregnant; the proportion of quitters is highest among married women and women with higher levels of education.7 Smoking during pregnancy declined in 2004 to 10.2 percent of women giving birth, down 42 percent from 1990.8
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Neonatal health-care costs attributable to maternal smoking in the U.S. have been estimated at $366 million per year, or $704 per maternal smoker.9
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Smoking by parents is also associated with a wide range of adverse effects in their children, including exacerbation of asthma, increased frequency of colds and ear infections, and sudden infant death syndrome. Secondhand smoke causes an estimated 150,000 to 300,000 cases of lower respiratory tract infections in children less than 18 months of age, resulting in 7,500 to 15,000 annual hospitalizations.10
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In 2005, an estimated 45.1 million, or 21.0 percent of, adults were current smokers. The annual prevalence of smoking has declined 40 percent between 1965 and 1990, but has been unchanged virtually thereafter.11
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Males tend to have significantly higher rates of smoking prevalence than females. In 2005, 23.9 percent of males currently smoked compared to 18.1 percent of females.12
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Prevalence of current smoking in 2005 was highest among Native American Indians/Alaska Natives (32.0%), intermediate among non-Hispanic whites (21.9%), and non-Hispanic blacks (21.5%), and lowest among Hispanics (16.2%) and Asians and Pacific Islanders (13.3%).13
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As smoking declines among the White non-Hispanic population, tobacco companies have targeted both African Americans and Hispanics with intensive merchandising, which includes billboards, advertising in media targeted to those communities, and sponsorship of civic groups and athletic, cultural, and entertainment events. In 2003, total advertising and promotion by the five major tobacco companies was the highest ever reported at $15.15 billion.14
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Tobacco advertising also plays an important role in encouraging young people to begin a lifelong addiction to smoking before they are old enough to fully understand its long-term health risk. Approximately 90 percent of smokers begin smoking before the age of 21.15
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In 2005, 23 percent of high school students were current smokers.16 Over 8 percent of middle school students were current smokers in 2004.17
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Secondhand smoke involuntarily inhaled by nonsmokers from other people's cigarettes is classified by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency as a known human (Group A) carcinogen, responsible for approximately 3,400 lung cancer deaths and 46,000 (ranging 22,700-69,600) heart disease deaths in adult nonsmokers annually in United States.18
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Workplaces nationwide are going smoke-free to provide clean indoor air and protect employees from the life-threatening effects of secondhand smoke. Nearly 70 percent of the U.S. workforce worked under a smoke free policy in 1999, but the percentage of workers protected varies by state, ranging from a high of 83.9 percent in Utah and 81.2 percent in Maryland to 48.7% in Nevada.19
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Employers have a legal right to restrict smoking in the workplace, or implement a totally smoke-free workplace policy. Exceptions may arise in the case of collective bargaining agreements with unions.
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Nicotine is an addictive drug, which when inhaled in cigarette smoke reaches the brain faster than drugs that enter the body intravenously. Smokers not only become physically addicted to nicotine; they also link smoking with many social activities, making smoking a difficult habit to break.20
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In 2005, an estimated 46.1 million adults were former smokers. Of the current 45.1 million smokers, 42.5 percent of current smokers had stopped smoking at least 1 day in the preceding year because they were trying to quit smoking completely.21
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Nicotine replacement products can help relieve withdrawal symptoms people experience when they quit smoking. Nicotine patches, nicotine gum and nicotine lozenges are available over-the-counter, and a nicotine nasal spray and inhaler are currently available by prescription.22
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In addition, a doctor can prescribe non nicotine pills such as Zyban and Chantix to help smokers quit.
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Nicotine replacement therapies are helpful in quitting when combined with a behavior change program such as the American Lung Association's Freedom From Smoking (FFS), which addresses psychological and behavioral addictions to smoking and strategies for coping with urges to smoke.

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Post by shmacky » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:37 am

tonejones,

Stay with it..I'm 7 day's of not smoking on the Chantix myself. I gotta say, for me, it was alot easier than I thought it would be. This will sound stupid but the hardest part for me was the emotional bond I had with smoking. Saying to myself after I quit "Mike, you don't smoke anymore" produced one of those uneasy chuckles. I could tell when I needed nicoteen 'cause it felt like my stomach was knotting up. Hell, I didn't even really want to quit, but my group of maintenance tech.'s at work got on the chantix and my family was out of town visiting relatives in texas so I said what the hell...nows as good a time as any (no wife smoking around the house).
Well I just rolled in last night about midnight from flying out and driving back from Corpus, Tx. with my wife "smoking all the way" and my 7 year old "how much farther". 18 hrs. straight through no smoking and I can breath. It used to take me 3 packs to make that trip and 3 days to be able to breath again when I got there.
To sum up... stay with it....I'm not known for my will power I give credit to my success so far to the Chantix. Next on the hit list ...Mountain Dew.

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Post by mightymike » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:47 am

I was at a local pub in Venice ,Fl watching a Funk band with a very beautiful lady last Friday, who I found out smoked after the 2nd date. She said, they have some laser thing where they zap you behind the ear, and it supposedly works.

Me, I smoked for almost 10 years, and quit in 1991 when I was 24. I was never a more than a 2 pack a dayer, but I was going through some stress, and found that over a week period I had jumped to 4 packs a day. So I quit cold turkey. Just went to bed at 7pm, slept till noon the next day, then around 3pm I couldn't take it no more, and went back to sleep till the next morning. (I just pretended I was back in lock down in Juvy for hoping the fence at Disneyland)

For me the key is making it a day without smoking. Once I make it through the first 24 hours, I'm home free. Then I chewed gum for years. Practically wore out the cartilidge in my jaw, I chewed gum so much. There's videos of me in the church rehersal for my wedding chewing like a cow, it's so embarrassing.

Used to have dreams where I'd smoke, then feel guilty not realizing it was only a dream. The trick is, never even smoke one ever again. If I had known that, I wouldn't have smoked since 85, when I quit for 4 months, and thought I could have just one when my car broke down and I was frustrated. Once you've been hooked, if you even smoke one, you'll be back up to what you used to smoke within a week. Well that's my experience anyway. YMMV

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Post by Eargasm » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:44 am

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Post by chubs » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:59 am

So Tonejones.... 2-3 months later... still off the cancer sticks?

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Post by tonejones » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:10 am

chubs wrote:So Tonejones.... 2-3 months later... still off the cancer sticks?
Yep....and it still sucks!!!! :D

I do feel alot better though man.....

Am continuing to adjust (am 41 and have smoked since I was 14):
Is much harder to control food intake,
am much more of a smartass from time to time now,
I find myself getting a little more creatively psychotic with road rage (just to myself mind you....cursing out other drivers under my breath/occasionally pounding the roof of my truck cab with my fist while driving/etc.)...

.....but all of this is slowly dissipating as time goes on.......
Let's get going, 'cause there's too much music, too little time!!!!

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Post by jerrydyer » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:02 pm

just start popping pain killer ..they are all over the internet. :lol:
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Post by tooloud » Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:07 pm

have not had one since december of 2006.......... getting close to 1 year... after 30 years of sucking on those things........... They do smell bad..... I dont miss them........three of the guys in my band still smoke, not the drummer and as of latley not me.....................
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