Other than EVH lets talk about who's great!!!

Hassan Chop · Post by **Hassan Chop** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:09 pm

I like George Lynch's playing and tone a lot. Better than Van Halen, anyway.

I'm really surprised that no one has mentioned a guy whose tone and style are both great, and who was a big influence on most of the later guitar heroes: Billy Gibbons.

I also admire David Gilmour.

Zoso · Post by **Zoso** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:03 pm

I totally agree on Warren Haynes. The stuff on the Deepest End CD and DVD is just amazing!

Another of my favorite players is Ty Tabor from King's X. Very fluid, without being overly technical. His tone on the first 4 KX albums is still one of my all time favs. Plus, he is a really nice, gracious guy to boot.

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:18 am

I'm really surprised that no one has mentioned a guy whose tone and style are both great, and who was a big influence on most of the later guitar heroes: Billy Gibbons.

Ummmm......actually I did, but you're the only other person that seems to agree with me enough to bring him up too.

Sadly I found the ZZtop performance from the Clapton Crossroads Festival (on TV on PBS last night) a bit disappointing. And those amps almost looked like Crates behind him (also Crates backing up Joe Wlash, who I coulda done without anyway.)

Also sadly was the fact that I kept seeing Jeff Beck's DSL rig in the background, but if they showed him on the 2-hour program last night I missed it.

As always, Santana was a snoozer (Clapton looked a little out of place up there with all the congas going full bore!)

Needed to see more Buddy Guy, you see BB all the time but don't see much of Buddy. These guys are getting to be the last of the early electric blues giants, we need to enjoy their presence while we can.

I thought the real high point (of what I saw of the festival on TV anyway) was Robert Cray. Even Vince Gill got down and played some Gee-Tar. And John Mayer was a much better player than I would have given him credit for, if a little show-off-y (look, I can rip off Hendrix and SRV's chordal R&B/blues stylings too!!)

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:21 pm

Hey Flames, who was that old Blues Man who was playing at the entrence to that fest? Think he was right before Santana. the guy said he knew Robert Johnson(WHO I WILL ADD TO THIS LIST). I would have liked to hear him play more instead of Santana.

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 3:26 pm

Oh crap, the one who was playing with Robert Lockwood Jr. (who also knew or was related to RJ) dammit I can't remember his name now, but I taped the program so I can find out again. I was trying to give my son a bath in the middle of some of that stuff!! Was playing that acoustic that looked like it had a swirl-patterned graphite top right?
More of him instead of Santana woulda been great.

dirtydeeds22 · Post by **dirtydeeds22** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:08 pm

David "Honeyboy" Edwards is the dude with the swirly Martin. I saw the DVD and I would have like to have seen more of the Folk Blues stuff also. It's cool seeing old dudes like that ripping it up. JJ Cale was pretty interesting. Really different versions of his songs than most people are used to.

Post by **VelvetGeorge** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:51 pm

I got to see parts of it as well. I agree that some of the performances were kinda dull. C'mon Jimmy Vaughn, sing in tune.
And Mayer, stop being so pleased with yourself. Go write some sappy college girl stuff.

And Carlos, spiritual orgasms? How many hits did you take at Woodstock?

Now for the stand outs:

Vince Gill- keep bringing those Chet Atkins licks. They're timeless.

Robert Cray- world class.

Buddy Guy- pushing all those old guys' buttons. Great stuff.

James Taylor- yeah, I said it.

Robert Randolph- Fuck off. That's the most unique take on soul and the blues I've heard in years. This guy will be around for a long time.

Doyall Bramhall II- Any guy with two vintage superbasses is alright with me.

I'm sure there were others, I must have missed 'em.

As for the amps in the back line. I couldn't tell what they were. But I'm willing to guess that there was a stipulation that each stage revision had to have them. They must have sponsored part of the show.
I don't recall seeing anything plugged into them. Did you guys?

Did you also see the Guitar Center and Sirrius banners in the back?

Kendall915 · Post by **Kendall915** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:12 am

VelvetGeorge wrote:I got to see parts of it as well. I agree that some of the performances were kinda dull. C'mon Jimmy Vaughn, sing in tune.
And Mayer, stop being so pleased with yourself. Go write some sappy college girl stuff.

And Carlos, spiritual orgasms? How many hits did you take at Woodstock?

Now for the stand outs:

Vince Gill- keep bringing those Chet Atkins licks. They're timeless.

Robert Cray- world class.

Buddy Guy- pushing all those old guys' buttons. Great stuff.

James Taylor- yeah, I said it.

Robert Randolph- Fuck off. That's the most unique take on soul and the blues I've heard in years. This guy will be around for a long time.

Doyall Bramhall II- Any guy with two vintage superbasses is alright with me.

I'm sure there were others, I must have missed 'em.

As for the amps in the back line. I couldn't tell what they were. But I'm willing to guess that there was a stipulation that each stage revision had to have them. They must have sponsored part of the show.
I don't recall seeing anything plugged into them. Did you guys?

Did you also see the Guitar Center and Sirrius banners in the back?

Clapton and his guys had Marshall's, when Robert Cray was up there with a bunch of people there were a few green cabs and heads with the name "MATCHLESS" on them, there were a couple fender super reverbs also I believe.

I think all of the amps in the back were in use, you can see wires going to them, and they get moved around depending on who's playing.

And I agree, Robert Randolph = WOW.

I also really like what the Soggy Bottom Boys bring to the table, I like the O' Brother where art thou soundtrack. (Even if they are acoustic!) Those dudes look like your generic science teacher and weird uncle, not two blues guitarists!

The beauty of TiVO!

Country Boy Shane · Post by **Country Boy Shane** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:32 am

Robert Randolf is god dang amazing! What a great innovator of slidin!

Zoso · Post by **Zoso** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:54 am

I also really like what the Soggy Bottom Boys bring to the table, I like the O' Brother where art thou soundtrack. (Even if they are acoustic!) Those dudes look like your generic science teacher and weird uncle, not two blues guitarists!

The beauty of TiVO!

The one with the beard is Dan Tyminsky. I can't recall the other guy's name, but they are phenomenal players. They are in Allison Krauss' band, Union Station, and they can play damn near any style of music, altough bluegrass is their main style. I've had the pleasure of seeing them live a few times, and they are definitely first class pickers.

My cable went out right as BB and Clapton were doing their number, so I missed the second half. I'll give Clapton credit, he definitely had a good mix of styles and players.

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:14 am

They must have sponsored part of the show.

I think FENDER must have been the big sponsor, except for BB and Hubert Sumlin you were hard pressed to see anything that wasn't a Fender Strat (or Vince's Tele!!)
Hell, the banners even had a Fender electric mandolin painted on one side of the stage. WTF was that there for otherwise???

Post by **VelvetGeorge** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:07 pm

Yes, those Union Station guys can seriously play. Jerry Douglas, the dobro player, is a mutha fucker.

lison doesn't do anythign for me singing wise, but she can play fiddle.

George

myker · Post by **myker** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:40 pm

What about Thurston moore of Sonic Youth? Or bob mould from Husker Du? Or D. Boon from the minutemen? Or even Tom Morello of rage against the machine...some lesser known bad asses.
mike

Country Boy Shane · Post by **Country Boy Shane** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:48 am

Morello is definitely an innovator of the way we perceive guitar and what it can do, and it doesn't matter if you like him or not.

flemingmras · Post by **flemingmras** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:56 am

And he uses Marshalls! Morello is a great fuckin' player!!!

Jon