
Building a shop or garage?
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Building a shop or garage?
Hey guys I'm in dire need to build on to my house for several reasons. Anyone who could give me advice I would greatly appreciate it. Right now I'm leaning towards building a metal building that will be a 2 part type deal. One half needs to be a garage to house my Vette and mustang as well as be high enough for a lift. I want a wall in the middle so I can have my electronics workbench and enough room for various wood working tools. (I need the wall, don't want the stang and vette getting all dirty)
I'm going to be closing in my current garage to make it a band room. I'm up to 24 guitars, 12 amps, drums, pa and a bunch more crap so I need a big room for it. So any help would be appreciate. Let me know if you have done something simiular. Thanks.

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Sounds like to me youll need at least 10 ft walls..or larger
. So its a prefab Metal building?.. Middle wall not so hard .
Strucual metal Stiuds 2x6 and Drywall and Access door ( Metal frame type)
!0 ft gareage door to accomidate the Lift I think your all set..
Batt insolation for ext wall the Ceiling ( Roof) all you have to do is pick the size..
20 x40 if ya got the room.. A Pole Building might be less expensive
. So its a prefab Metal building?.. Middle wall not so hard .
Strucual metal Stiuds 2x6 and Drywall and Access door ( Metal frame type)
!0 ft gareage door to accomidate the Lift I think your all set..
Batt insolation for ext wall the Ceiling ( Roof) all you have to do is pick the size..
20 x40 if ya got the room.. A Pole Building might be less expensive
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A pole Barn Looks like a garage acts like a garage but cost less than a Prefab Metal builing..StratTone wrote:What is a pole building? Metal is what I was thinking. I don't really want to go over 12k though. I won't be putting the lift in right away but it is coming.
Do a Google search and check it out..
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This is interesting to me because Im actually going to help a friend of mine build his studio. At this point he has about a 40x40 garage thats seperate from his house. He's having an architect draw up the plans but theres several things they mentioned about making it 'green'. One was a double stud. Ive never heard of this before but you apparently use extra wide top and bottom plates and 2 sets of studs on each of them in a sort of teeth pattern. Apparently this helps with sound isolation. Maybe it helps prevent resonances? Its a pretty old NE style block and stone building from what I can remember of it. Ive only seen it about 40 times but I never take notice of anything.
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Re: Building a shop or garage?
By the way, I feel your pain....the Man Cave is getting a little crowded, but I'm in the middle of town with nowhere to expand to!!!StratTone wrote:I'm going to be closing in my current garage to make it a band room. I'm up to 24 guitars, 12 amps, drums, pa and a bunch more crap so I need a big room for it.


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Im building a studio right Now... construction will be , double studed walls with 1 in air gap inbetween, double 5/8 drywall thruout, Ruxal Acoustic fire batt Insolation, hard wood floors, ARULUX PANELS, Broad band defussers and Bass traps with clouds over the mixing desk and In the Live room. Exterior fire rated doors for access into the control room and the Live room. I started today
on all the Demo, framing will start on Tuesday and I should have it all insolated and hung by next tuesday after I have the electrician come in and move some things around..
If I can borrow a camera I will snap some shots of the construction to the
Finished product.
on all the Demo, framing will start on Tuesday and I should have it all insolated and hung by next tuesday after I have the electrician come in and move some things around..
If I can borrow a camera I will snap some shots of the construction to the
Finished product.
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2 sets of studs on each of them in a sort of teeth pattern.
I wouldnt do that you mayas well have a single wall there...
Double 2x4 constuction with a 1 inch air gap between the 2 walls.
fill both walls with Ruxall Acoustic Fire Batt and Double the 5/8 drywall
on both sides attach second layer of drywall with a product called Green Goo
seal all openings with sound seal caulking and repeat as nessesary for each wall application.. tell your buddy he doesnt need an architect tell him to visit
this site and he will get all the right answer he needs. that architect doesnt know what hes talking about.
http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewf ... &start=100
I wouldnt do that you mayas well have a single wall there...
Double 2x4 constuction with a 1 inch air gap between the 2 walls.
fill both walls with Ruxall Acoustic Fire Batt and Double the 5/8 drywall
on both sides attach second layer of drywall with a product called Green Goo
seal all openings with sound seal caulking and repeat as nessesary for each wall application.. tell your buddy he doesnt need an architect tell him to visit
this site and he will get all the right answer he needs. that architect doesnt know what hes talking about.
http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewf ... &start=100
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The two Black Flags on the far right, with the JTM100 Super PA and JTM45/100 to their left. The Vibratone "swirly" cab is back in the corner, along with my '66 Bassman and '67 Bandmaster -- I have no room for them to sit out anymore. Drums are vintage Tama Superstars, wicked good drums.........I only have a few of the guitars out, no room for them all either.Billy Batz wrote:HS! Andy you have a nice setup there. What are the amps again? I know youve sold some. I know youve done a Super Bass, 1959, Black flag x2, JTM100, JTM45.. I miss anything? Is that your swirly cab in the far right corner?
My wife's last position got "eliminated" a couple of months ago, so the JTM45, Super Bass and Sound City 120 got sold to be sure we had some spare survival cash around. I'm cooking up a JTM50 to replace the JTM45, I miss that amp something fierce.
As soon as I shake down the PA system stuff and get a trailer for it I'll use a much smaller setup for vocals for rehearsals.

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I cant say I understood that logic either. Its still one frame no matter how you break up the studs but thats what he wants to do. I already questioned it but his attitude is "it doesnt have to really be green." I dont think he wants to go all out financially and ther building really is a huge fort of stone and concrete.St August wrote:2 sets of studs on each of them in a sort of teeth pattern.
I wouldnt do that you mayas well have a single wall there...
Double 2x4 constuction with a 1 inch air gap between the 2 walls.
fill both walls with Ruxall Acoustic Fire Batt and Double the 5/8 drywall
on both sides attach second layer of drywall with a product called Green Goo
seal all openings with sound seal caulking and repeat as nessesary for each wall application.. tell your buddy he doesnt need an architect tell him to visit
this site and he will get all the right answer he needs. that architect doesnt know what hes talking about.
.http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewf ... &start=100
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The logic behind the staggered 2x4's should be employed with a separate sheet of dense rubber insulation in between. Then you don't have any connecting (by wood/screws/nails)studs or walls that help sound vibration.
A friend had his "man cave" built above his garage, and used this building technique. You can be downstairs with him diming a 50 watt and you can talk above it at normal conversation volume without any trouble.
No, it's not completely soundproof, but it's kept the cops away from his place for 2 years now, so the design is sound.
A friend had his "man cave" built above his garage, and used this building technique. You can be downstairs with him diming a 50 watt and you can talk above it at normal conversation volume without any trouble.
No, it's not completely soundproof, but it's kept the cops away from his place for 2 years now, so the design is sound.
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