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Need some opinions on T-shirt ideas for NAMM 2008

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:12 pm
by Scumback Speakers
WCR & I are going to make up a couple dozen NAMM 2008 T-Shirts...so we're kicking around some ideas. What do you think of these? Imagine a light gray T-shirt (so no bras show through) with these images on top.

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:11 pm
by myfoot
Well I want one anyway :lol:

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:26 pm
by guitar007
You're sharing T-shirt space with another company??

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:42 pm
by Scumback Speakers
guitar007 wrote:You're sharing T-shirt space with another company??
WCR & I have done shows together before (LA AMP Show, twice) and our products compliment each other. Over the last 3-4 years we've become good friends as well, so it's no problem.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:17 pm
by Billy Batz
I cant see them?

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:20 pm
by Scumback Speakers
Billy Batz wrote:I cant see them?
FireFox? Refresh the screen/page. IE has no issues on a Windows platform.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:29 pm
by Billy Batz
LMAO. OK> I used a different browser.
The second one is a tiny bit corny at the end. Just the one joke will kill it. I want one.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:57 pm
by Scumback Speakers
Billy Batz wrote:LMAO. OK> I used a different browser.
The second one is a tiny bit corny at the end. Just the one joke will kill it. I want one.
I thought the 2nd one was too much, too, I liked the first one the best. I'll be getting a sample made up and post some pics when I get it. Not sure of the cost yet, I'll let you know.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:53 pm
by 908ssp
Make the pictures smaller connect the guitar to the speaker. Make the "WCR Guitar Pickups" letter bigger and on the same line as the Scumback Speakers then make the next lines "Guitar...Fellatio" in three lines and use a font that is easier to read the way you have it it will a burr from a few feet away on a t-shirt.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:11 pm
by Eargasm
I have to say that this shirt could look a lot better than it does now. It LOOKS like it was thrown together with Microsoft word, and not very professional as a result. It's cool if you don't have the bucks to have this professionally designed - I understand completely - but maybe I can make you aware of a few finer points of design work.
1. Don't use more than 2 different fonts for the copy. Any more than that and it's a dead giveaway that a font-happy rookie created it.
2. Keep overall geometry in mind. There should be a nice flow of content that the satisfies the eye and has a conclusive end. A continuity is essential. Designs that have the viewers eye skipping all over the shirt to make sense of it, loose the whole point of the advertising in the first place. People will not work hard to "get" the message.
3. Keep in mind competition. Not the competition from other companies, the competition of each graphic element in the design. In this case, the speaker completely dominates the design and it is depicted realistically, while the guitar player is depicted in cartoon form. Not a bad thing for seperate graphics but the way they are now they just look too "pasted up". A better option would be to position the guitar player standing on the speaker itself, and use that as ONE graphic element.
4. Last thing to consider is simplicity. Many times a simple graphic with the less text the better. For example, get rid of the guitar player completely, and replace it with a pickup skewed on an angle and on top of the speaker. Then reduce the transparency of both, maybe run them through a Photoshop filter to "roughen" them up, then place the text boldly over the top. Simple but professional.

Just so you know - I do this for a living. My main job is commercial illustration, but I often do straight design work as well. Past clients include Larry Dahlberg's "The HUNT for BIG FISH" television show (I created the logo, T-shirt designs, and DVD packaging graphics - www.huntforbigfish.com), Snoloha apparel company (I create the lion's share of their T-shirts designs - www.snoloha.com) various work for BAE systems (catalog illustrations, photorealistic vector illustrations, web illustrations, etc. - www.armorholdings.com) to name a few.
I just wanted to mention my credentials so you know I am not talking out my ass...
Oh, and by the way - I WILL WORK FOR TRADE!!! Yep, that's right. Should you need any assistance I can save you a lot of money, while delivering corporate level quality graphics. Basically I do the work for you at a very competitive rate, while you "Pay" me in trade for your products at full pop retail. Try and find a graphic designer that'll do that!!!
Anyway, if you are interested, send me a pm with your email address, and I'll send you my complete portfolio with work samples included.
Hope this helps you!
L

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:43 pm
by Scumback Speakers
Eargasm, tempting offer, but I already have one graphic artist working on it for me, but I'll tell you what. I can send you a pdf file with Illustrator editing capabilities to see if you can do something I'd like.

Obviously, creating the graphics all over again won't work for WCR, but I have contacted him about getting one of his pickup graphics (vector based, sizable) sent to me.

What I can do is send you the elements, you can work up a design. If I like it, we'll work out a trade.

Fair enough?

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:46 pm
by Eargasm
Agreed, I'll pm you with my email address.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:23 pm
by MacGaden
I voted "Sick Bastids" and I want one... And I totally agree with Eargasm. I work with a lot of designers as a Mac supporter. But I like the concept.. :D

8)

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:30 pm
by Scumback Speakers
MacGaden wrote:I voted "Sick Bastids" and I want one... And I totally agree with Eargasm. I work with a lot of designers as a Mac supporter. But I like the concept.. :D

8)
I knew I could count on you for a T-shirt. 8) Mac support? Well, gee, I guess I should reveal my other company, www.lamacguru.com

Mostly digital video installs, repairs, on-site fixes, data recovery and networking workstations together for video conferencing and data sharing, though. I'm NOT a graphic designer by any means, although I can whip up a mean amp faceplate and the occasional logo. My last big install was the film/video lab at MI (Musician's Institute) in Hollywood two years ago. But there are still some Hollywood royalty clients that won't let anyone else work on their systems, so I can't abandon that word/website altogether, although amps and speakers are my main joy (big surprise, eh?).

Eargasm, I sent you what I have so far, more on the way in a minute.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:48 pm
by Eargasm
Yep I got it Jim, thanks. I'll be working on it tonight. Btw, I used to be into the video thing...bought a Sony PD150, and a Canon XL1S, FCP3, huge external drives, lighting, all kinds of stuff - it was a blast.
I love my Mac. I don't hate Windows or anything (basically because that would require too much effort on my part :lol:) but I've never had much luck getting them to work no matter if it was a brand new Dell, or a Homebrew job built by a "guru". But I don't hate 'em, my Mac just kicks ass for me when I ask it to without fail.