Wireless Netwrok and parental block

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:28 am

I just set up a Wireless Router so I could share my intenet connection with my kid. I got one of the PRE-N Belkins Wireless Routers., that is backward compatible with G and B. The range is amazing, and it works well with my Atheros built wireless on my lapton, and my son's USB Wireless G Linksys WIFI. My Desktop Comp, is conected to the router with a Ethernet, and it is the host in the Network. XP on everthing except my sons comp that has 98se. (3 comps total)
He doesn't need to be on the network, but I have his internet working.
I'd like to learn how to get his compter on the network, but it's different with the win98.

Now that I have internet working on all the comps, I would like to set it up so the wireless stuff isn't open. So that you need a code or encription to use my router from a wireless, (I don't want to unwittingly share my wireless connection with any neighbors) I also want to set up my son's access so that he's only limited to the sites I allow, and everything else will be blocked. Then I can add sites as he needs them for homework. Guess I need a program for that? Or is that in his windows 98?

Necrovore · Post by **Necrovore** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:53 pm

You can use a program like Netnanny installed on his computer to block sites. Not sure how this would be done on your network. As for setting everyone up on the network using different OS's, that should not be too hard. Google search exactly what you want to do. I did the same thing with my wife's and my computers. I run XP while she runs Me.

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:35 pm

Thanks for the tips.

MacGaden · Post by **MacGaden** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:39 pm

Hi Mike:

Netnanny seems like a good solution, and it runs on 98se. 98 would not be my first OS choice for the internet. Its too old and too insecure. Make sure you have a firewall, maybe there is one in the router, to protect it.

Wireless networks should be hidden, and the traffic should be encrypted.
Hidden means you have to know the exact name of the network, and a password to get on it. At the same time you usually also turn on WEP, Wired Equivalent Protection, that encrypts your traffic wtih a 40 or 128 bit key. Otherwise using an wireless network is like putting a plug to your network out in the street.

My neighbour, who also works in computers, did´t believe it was neccesary: Nobody would notice that he had´nt changed the default password for his router either.. I got on his network, checked his company´s network and servers out, captured hs network packets, found his email log-on, and the password for his netbank, and sent it to him. From his own mail account. Encrypted ! Then I changed the password to his router. I called him, and gave him the key for the mail he got from "himself" ! And I´m not a very good hacker... Be carefull.

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:41 pm

My neighbour, who also works in computers, did´t believe it was neccesary: Nobody would notice that he had´nt changed the default password for his router either.. I got on his network, checked his company´s network and servers out, captured hs network packets, found his email log-on, and the password for his netbank, and sent it to him. From his own mail account. Encrypted ! Then I changed the password to his router. I called him, and gave him the key for the mail he got from "himself" ! And I´m not a very good hacker... Be carefull.

And I bet he loves you now.........

MacGaden · Post by **MacGaden** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:18 pm

And I bet he loves you now.........

We never talked much anyway !

And one day his landlord came and asked if we had seen him... Then the police. Turned out he had "forgotten" to pay his rent, sold his company´s computers to someone else, and drove off into the sunset. That´s hard to get away with in Europe, especially if you do it in a black BMW you did´nt pay for, with Danish plates. They caught him. He confessed. Said he just got bored..

Billy Batz · Post by **Billy Batz** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:25 pm

MacGaden wrote:
And I bet he loves you now.........
We never talked much anyway !

And one day his landlord came and asked if we had seen him... Then the police. Turned out he had "forgotten" to pay his rent, sold his company´s computers to someone else, and drove off into the sunset. That´s hard to get away with in Europe, especially if you do it in a black BMW you did´nt pay for, with Danish plates. They caught him. He confessed. Said he just got bored..

Interesting guy

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:59 am

WEP

That the thing I was trying to remember. I'll browse the Belkin Install CD and see if I can find out how to do this, and thanks for the other tips.
The computer with the win 98se is my old comp, that refuses to die.
Not worth Upgrading to XP.

MacGaden · Post by **MacGaden** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:46 am

Hi Mike:

Seems like Belkin calls it WPA... And you might be able to block stuff in the router:

To maximize your network’s security the Belkin Wireless Pre-N Router offers advanced Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA) support that provides enhanced encryption to protect your wireless network. Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI) and Network Address Translation (NAT) doubles your firewall and safeguards your network from Internet intruders. VPN tunnel pass-through provides secure Internet connections to your office. Built-in Parental Control/Web Content Filter provides over 50 fully configurable filters that allow you to block websites and images.

I hate reading manuals too, but maybe in this case you should...

The NAT part means that nothing inside your network is visible on the outside, from the web. Kind of like a firewall, but not as safe as setting up limitations/rules on what ports are open both ways.