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Most of y'all know this boy on here as rgalpin - he's way too modest to toot his own horn but I thought his tone was killer in this video so I thought I'd share. He's gonna kill me fer doin' this but it just sounds too good! That thar Super Lead has all MetroAmp guts in it and sounds freaking killer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPQdMbDcOPs

Great ! Loved the energy of that . Man, That vibe, good 'ol hair Metal. I love it.

Thank you Tone Slinger. I thought you girls were gonna leave me standing here in my party dress.

Was that guitar a modded Pacer or Baretta,or what was it ?Looked cool.

rock on rgalpin!

Hey R:

Not leaving you standing...

Nice tone for this. Details, please ! Guitar, pedals, amp etc..

Good playing too !

thanks y'all.

the guitar is made from parts -

the body sat in my attic in my attic for 20 years - it's very heavy - i took about 1/2 inch off the perimiter with a jigsaw.

the neck is a warmoth 23 3/4 conversion neck

floyd rose - except i left the bar in the dressing room - DOH!!

pickup is the bareknuckles vhII.

pedals... 6 band MXR with a very slight mid boost. you can barely see the boost on the pedal - i should just remove it from the chain.

the amp is 68 spec -
with 69 tone stack -
and .68 across V2A.
6CA7s.
everything on 5 except vol: 8

dry to 25W greenback cab -
wet to Tech21 power amp and V30's

Bigger clubs than what my ass has been playin. Shit, I cant turn my 2205 past fuckin 4 ! That 100 watter is loud ! On 8 in a club? Only in my dreams. Thats why I'm tryin to get a good Plexi type tone using a MV. My 2205 gives me the gain, but is to fuckin harsh and "Metallic" sounding. Cant wait to join y'all's league, with a real deal amp.

On 8 in a club? Only in my dreams. Thats why I'm tryin to get a good Plexi type tone using a MV.

you don't really need to mess with a MV. try an attenuator. IMHO, as soon as you say MV, you've stepped out of the "real vintage amp" category and into no man's land.

it was a nice size club - but i do use an attenuator on my dry signal to knock it down a few db. the attenuator is also used to tap the signal coming out of the OT and convert it to line level. then that is run through a delay and out to a power amp for the wet side.

at the beginning of the clip the camcorder was directly in front of my wet cab - the V30s powered by the Tech21 - a little too wet - later in the clip, the camera is in front of my dry cab - and it's a little nicer blend.

rgalpin wrote:
the amp is 68 spec -
with 69 tone stack -
and .68 across V2A.
6CA7s.
everything on 5 except vol: 8

Volume on 8? Sheesh! Something tells me you'll be able to hear the bass player a little better next week!! *lol*

Whats the best attenuater, and why ? How much gain/sustain can one render out of just saturating the power tubes and not pushing the preamp ?That live clip of yours sounded pretty saturated, and thats what I'm likin.

as far as attenuators go - i tried the weber MASS 150 on recommendation from Flames or BillyBatz and i liked it - never tried anything else - so all i know is the weber works for me - my only complaint with it is that when i turn it all the way up it still attenuates the signal a good bit - 10db (almost 50% perceived volume) - Ted said if I sent him the unit he would check it out, but i have never taken him up on the offer.

i understand the question you are asking about saturation at the power tubes vs. the preamp - i think in the 1959 circuit, it is to your benefit to keep the preamp section as clean as you can stand it by messing with component values and pre amp tube values - in order to ensure that you are getting as much power tube saturation as possible - not to mention the tone that comes from a speaker cab that is getting its ass kicked at high volume - that adds to the tone and saturation too - as a matter of fact an amp that sounds great at bedroom levels may shit the bed when you crank it up to real stage levels. and vice-versa.

I liked your tone and playing on that clip, nice job.

I like how you did a top route for the input jack on your homebrew strat, instead of it going in the side of the body, les paul style.

thanks man. i play just good enough to keep myself entertained - so, i appreciate the compliment. when i grow up, i'll learn how to REALLY play.

the goofiest thing on that clip is i didn't have my cable tucked in around my strap lock - it's just hanging out there waiting to get yanked - half way through the set mark yells over at me - "fix yer cable" - i look down and it's like - "sorry, i missed the first class of ROCK 101." spaced out - forgot my wammy bar n' everything - good thing though or i might have ruined a perfectly normal solo with a bunch o' sissy wammy bar crap.

rgalpin wrote:thanks man. i play just good enough to keep myself entertained - so, i appreciate the compliment. when i grow up, i'll learn how to REALLY play.

the goofiest thing on that clip is i didn't have my cable tucked in around my strap lock - it's just hanging out there waiting to get yanked - half way through the set mark yells over at me - "fix yer cable" - i look down and it's like - "sorry, i missed the first class of ROCK 101." spaced out - forgot my wammy bar n' everything - good thing though or i might have ruined a perfectly normal solo with a bunch o' sissy wammy bar crap.

Welcome . I'm jealous of everyone's plexi now

That happend in the band I'm in right now, the other guitar player has stepped on it at times, in the middle of playing, oops. A kid I used to play guitar with down the road, he had a knock off les paul, an $100 one, did that and it ripped the jack out and part of the wiring harness.